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Old 09-14-2021, 12:15 AM   #311
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Lol yes that's probably what it was He was half asleep when I got him out as well - just woken up to the cage clanging at feeding time - a bit bleary eyed at first. He seemed partly to want to be active and partly to find somewhere dark to go. I have another video a bit later where he's trying to dig a tunnel under OH sitting on the sofa lol.

One of his eyes looks a bit different I notice. I thought at first one eye wasn't as open as much, maybe because he'd been asleep. But now thinking the other eye is the one that looks different. Like a sort of dark ring round it.

He seems very healthy and energetic though!
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Old 09-14-2021, 02:32 AM   #312
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Haha! Looks like he had a right good old birthday party, hamsterstyle.
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Old 09-14-2021, 08:49 AM   #313
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Belated Happy birthday Pickle. It seems like he had a good time.
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Old 09-14-2021, 08:54 AM   #314
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Thank you both.
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Old 09-14-2021, 09:04 AM   #315
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I think I might need to take Pickle to vet actually. I did notice one of his eyes looked different last night, and now I look at the photos I can see there's some dark staining on his fur underneath his left eye and his left eye looks slightly protruded.

Assume they will treat it as an infection first and see if it clears up. Poor old thing off to the vets again.
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Old 09-14-2021, 10:13 AM   #316
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Happy Birthday Pickle yesterday. It was rosetta and Vincent's too and they had their treats and some playtime.
Now I see his eye in the pics it does look swollen actually. I hope he can get it checked out
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Old 09-16-2021, 08:38 AM   #317
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Pickle has been to the vets. The exotic vet wasn't available till Friday and I didn't want to wait that long so he was seen by a new more junior vet (chat and handover in the car park). His eye is protruding more and looks really nasty. She said, as I expected, that they wouldn't be able to tell if it was cancer or an infection and would probably treat with antiobitics and metacam and see what happens. But if it's only just started up in the last few days there's a good chance it's infection or a tooth abscess. That was after having a peek at him in the pet carrier and a look at his eye. She confirmed, as I guessed by looking at it, that it is now a non functioning eye.

She then took him into the vet surgery to examine him and I mentioned his testicles seemed larger and out all the time. When she brought him out she said she had asked the head vet for his opinion and that had been that Pickle should "go". ie be pts. I had been wondering what the prognosis would be and thinking his eye would probably need removing or pts and I feel he is too well and active to be pts. She must have seen my face and said - or possibly removing the eye.

He'd just been crawling all over me in the car while we were waiting in the car park and very energetically trying to push his way through the blanket. He doesn't seem to be in any pain or affected in any way, which is suprising. Unless the eye is numb.

She then said she'd examined him and didn't find any issue with his testicles, no swelling to abdomen and she thinks those are fine. And gave me a bag with the baytril in (already have metacam). Said wait and see what exotic vet says tomorrow.

Said she'd call me back after double checking the dose of baytril (I'd queried it).

When she called back it was a completely different story - she said he'll probably be fine on Metacam and live out his time and the exotic vet would call me tomorrow to see how he was and discuss (except she hasn't seen the eye!).

I'll wait till I've discussed it with the exotic vet tomorrow before thinking things through. His eye does look really nasty now (weeping, swollen around the area and bulging a lot). And it's all happened quite quickly. Part of me thinks positively it could be an infection if nothing else going on. And with it happening quickly. But then you think he'd be in pain (he doesn't even wince if you wipe round the area).

Anyway one day at a time.

I'd already ordered some beef country hunter dog food to hide the baytril (guessing he'd be prescribed baytril) and put the first dose out in his cage on a little plate before I put him back in the cage. He looked very excited and went straight for it and started nibbling it. But then left it and went back to bed. Hmm. Hardly had any at all. I wonder if he can taste the baytril. If it doesn't go later I'll have to find another method of giving it. The beef country hunter worked very well for Nugget. But all hamsters are different.

He's on 0.04ml baytril (twice a day) and 0.03 ml dog metacam. And he seems perfectly fine! Just as active as usual.

Baytril is just in a syringe with a needle on the end. Never had that before. And a smaller syringe to draw it into. I found that very fiddly as it was full of air bubbles - much harder than just drawing it up straight from the bottle or another syringe.

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Old 09-16-2021, 12:31 PM   #318
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Sorry to hear about Pickle and wondering what i would do in the same situation. I really don't know and need to think about it as well. My biggest worry would be that something is pushing the eye from the inside. Couldn't you email a photo to the exotics vet?
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Old 09-16-2021, 12:57 PM   #319
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I was thinking that too. Emailing a photo. I asked the vet today, who was lovely, if she’d taken a photo to show the exotic vet and she said no, so not sure how exotic vet can advise without seeing him.

Yes something is pushing the eye out. Either an abscess/infection (possibly tooth abscess or he could have scratched his eye somehow and it got infected). Or a tumour.

What I need to think about is if he is up to more surgery of the eye needs to be removed- mainly to avoid suffering if it burst eg. Still thinking about that and wait and see what exotic vet says. Presumably they could tell what’s been pushing it if they remove the eye. I have seen stories of a hamster’s eye “falling out” after protruding due to infection. Not sure how accurate that is.

The thing is he is very healthy otherwise and very active and enjoying life - if it came to surgery or pts I’d opt for surgery.

Anyway one day at a time. He has now eaten all the meaty baytril so will give the second dose at bedtime and the Metacam now (if I give both in food he may not eat everything in one go).

One thing I do know is any sign of an eye problem is a medical emergency. Vet said she wanted twice a day antibiotics to hit any infection hard - if it is infection.
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Old 09-16-2021, 01:38 PM   #320
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Yes, wait and give the antibiotics a chance to work. What a worry so soon after his surgery.
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