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12-19-2015, 11:06 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Central Scotland
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Re: Cruel or not?
I personally never wake my hamster up for any reason. They are naturally nocturnal only waking up to pee or get a bite to eat during daytime hours, but not usually expecting to be played with or removed from what is essentially, their territory (cage). If a hamster expresses a wish to play or is being abnormally active in the day, then you could interact with them for a bit, but ideally, respecting their karma leads to a better life. I keep a hamster to give them a better life and do what they want to be doing, not because I want to play with him! You get my drift though....x
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12-19-2015, 11:15 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Manchester. UK
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Re: Cruel or not?
Just my opinion and experience..... But I think every hamster could be different but certainly in the early days of taming I would refrain from waking a hamster but do gently talk, they will get used to the sound of your voice.
We are really lucky with Neptune as his sleep patterns have pretty much molded to when we are in and out. He's awake when I get up, around 5am, then when I get home at 5, I'll say hello and he'll pop out for a cuddle....if I am off work he'll generally come out at lunchtime for some food and always up when we have tea....think its the smell of food!!!! Then he's up around 10.30.... Which is later than when he was younger but he is 2 in March so needs his beauty sleep!!! We don't wake him up without reason but if we've been out for the day....he'll pop out to say....where have you been! Wouldn't have it any other way.
Hope this helps a little
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12-19-2015, 02:16 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Brooklyn, New York USA
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Re: Cruel or not?
I've been lucky with my hams. My Ted E. Bear, Almond, and Nutmeg have all gone to the Bridge, but they all had movable hours. They would wake up an hour or so earlier each day until they were daytime hammies. Then they would continue the wake up 1 hour earlier routine until they were back to night hammies. I enjoyed this most when they were daytime furries because I could have them out in the playpens for a couple of hours. They had food, water and hideys in the pen.
My newest hammies, Tim E. and Laddie are very late night, 1-3 am, hammies, although Tim E stays up until around 9-10 am. Laddie will be up and down throughout the day.
Routine feeding does help a hammy to wake up earlier. So does the "accidental" bump. I will bump the cage, not very hard, and see if hammy comes out. If they don't, I leave them alone. A startled hamster can bite pretty hard. It's out of fear, so don't try handling a sleeping ham. Also, picking up a hammy's home can make them very mistrustful. That's their safe place.
I also try not to pick a hammy up to get the hammy out of his/her cage to play when they are awake. I prefer to train them to either walk out of the cage door on their own, or have them walk into a container or a cup. It should always be the hammy's choice to come out and play or not. This kind of respect makes for nice tame hammies.
Hope this is helpful.
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12-20-2015, 04:17 PM
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Hamster Pup
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Wiltshire UK
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Re: Cruel or not?
Have been reading with interest! We're now into week 2 with new hammie Frodo, and I've pretty much established that he likes his sleep. I'm keen to get him into a routine of waking up around 7-8pm to give us 'play time' out of the cage before the kids go to bed. Frodo isn't keen on this idea, but I'm not sure if that's because young hamsters need more sleep, or if it's just because he's so shy (the shyest I'e encountered to date - he much prefers to wait until we're all fast asleep before venturing out). I've been doing the water and food, and chatting away (to myself apparently) to try and rustle him awake gently, but he's not playing ball yet.
Whilst I really don't want to have to wake him, that's pretty much what we've had to do twice, just to check he was ok (I was beginning to worry) and to give me a chance to spot clean. I think it's a fine balance between following their lead, and giving them a little nudge to comply, so to speak. I want Frodo to want to wake up and come out for interaction, and I know if we were going at his pace we wouldn't have had any handling time at all yet. That in itself worries me, as I don't want to leave it too long and then find I've left it too late.
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12-20-2015, 04:25 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Netherlands
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Re: Cruel or not?
Only time I wake up my hamsters is if they need medications, specially if it has to be done three times a day. Its not fun for them but none of them actually seem to mind, as they know its for their own good in the end. My smallest russian dwarf Cindy often wakes up late afternoon, if she wants to come out she clings to the mesh like a furry hamster spider.
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12-20-2015, 04:28 PM
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Location: Brooklyn, New York USA
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Re: Cruel or not?
I wouldn't worry about too late. My Ted E. took the longest of all my hammies to tame. It took nearly 3 months. He would give me death ray looks and I took him at his word. LOL Ted E. turned out to be a very special hammy; a heart ham. It was very hard to lose him when he got old. Believe me. your little one will start coming out to see what's going on.
I would try the bump every now and then. I hope it works out soon.
Ted's "get away from me Death Ray look" is below.
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12-20-2015, 04:38 PM
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Hamster Pup
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Wiltshire UK
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Re: Cruel or not?
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrKMcK
Ted's "get away from me Death Ray look" is below.
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Love it! If caught out of bed, Frodo has taken to staying stock-still, and avoiding eye contact. I think it's some sort of survival 'if I don't move you won't be able to see me' instinct. Tonight was the fist time he didn't maintain this posture, submitting to what must have been an overwhelming desire to come and get the piece of carrot I'd taken up for him
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12-20-2015, 04:40 PM
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Hamster Pup
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Wiltshire UK
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Re: Cruel or not?
... and thank you for the reassurance too I should add!
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