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Old 09-24-2020, 08:40 AM   #11
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Of course, I forgot about the males. Male harvest mice don't seem to be aggressive like male fancy mice. European male fancy mice have been bred for a less aggressive temperament and can be kept together when neutered. US mice usually cannot.
I think some people have also housed ASF with fancy mice which would be a much less invasive option than neutering. There'd be no risk of reproduction(two entirely different species that cannot breed together), and you'd eliminate surgical risks and such.

For me neutering with such delicate species shouldn't be done simply for social reasons. If there was a genuine medical reason(as in something already existing as a problem such as cancer) that required surgery that would be different!
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Old 09-24-2020, 11:48 AM   #12
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Vectis kept harvest mice, don’t know if she still does or not & I think Fluffagrams might too or did so they may know more but there is a thread here about some of Vectis’s mice.
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Old 09-24-2020, 12:34 PM   #13
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Vectis kept harvest mice, don’t know if she still does or not & I think Fluffagrams might too or did so they may know more but there is a thread here about some of Vectis’s mice.
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Old 12-15-2020, 11:28 AM   #14
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Hi flowerfairy - I kept mice (males and females) for over ten years in the past and had to use Baytril occasionally mainly due to the fact that mice (like rats) suffer from the Mycoplasma Pulmonis bacteria which can affect their respiratory tract and lungs. They are born with it. I probably have various historic posts on here relating to mice but wanted to answer your point regarding the dosing of Baytril and the best way to do that.

After years of using Baytril with barely any positive outcome, I asked my vet about whether he was actually dosing it properly and we came to the decision that the dose was not being given often enough. So rather than the universal "one drop on food" theory, I did one drop on a tasty piece of food I knew the mouse liked and would eat THREE times daily, spaced apart morning, afternoon and late evening. This proved to be more effective. Mice, like all small rodents have fast metabolism so the spaced dosing worked better, I found.

Some mice will carry on regardless with some acute breathing issues while some will become more chronic with it. Those are the ones who you should concentrate on the most to help them along. Not easy I know when you have more mice running over to see what`s for eating!

I never did full cage cleans with my mice or my dwarf hamsters or used cleaning agents. I found these to be troublesome around small creatures who are prone to this condition and wiping down the areas daily with a wet kitchen towel and removing the wheel and the food dishes to clean those in good old washing up liquid was fine. Mice scent a lot and smell more, I know, but over cleaning too can cause more stress than is necessary.

I had a large Gabber wire cage with multiple females in it with hammocks, ramps, etc....and cleaned around the cage with the mice still inside! Then again, I knew their characters so they stayed away from the main doors when I was wiping around the cage floors. They do get used to this.

On the best food to `lace`with Baytril. My favourite was half a thumbnail sized piece of rich tea biscuit, dip it in water until it`s soft (but not soggy) add the baytril and let it absorb into the moist biscuit on a plate. Once it sinks into the biscuit, offer it to the mouse (but try and be sneaky and offer it when she`s mooching about for a tit-bit! Or you can dose them all at the same time. It won`t work all the time but baytril does taste foul.

* Please ask your vet about this before proceeding though because my vet was quite open to suggestion* Your vet may not be.
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Old 12-15-2020, 01:05 PM   #15
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Great info racinghamster. I ended up giving them baytril twice a day on semolina mixed with soaked oats. They all loved it!

Toni mouse is completely fine now. All of them are. What fun little creatures.

I agree with not cleaning too much. They are in the borneo xl so nice small bar spacing. It has loads of bedding and they make loads of tunnels which I destroy each monthly cage clean. I try to leave half of them intact and lift them up to sweep food and poo that settles in the bottom of the cage.

The smell is intense!!!!!! I also wipe with a water and vinagar solution. Still little stinkers though.
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Never kept mice but do keep rats. Sounds silly but have you tried jam or yogurt?

Also when I need to add a calcium/vit d supplement to my rats diet I mix it with some wet cat food as by itself its horrible.
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That`s great news flowerfairy, really pleased to hear your new micelings are faring well. You will always see these respiratory bouts now and then and when I read your post, I couldn`t just ignore it. I used Baytril a lot when I kept my mice who were all rescues or little mice advertised on sites like Gumtree etc...and when I was going to my vet and being prescribed Baytril numerous times and seeing no results from it, myself and my vet had a lightbulb moment and decided the dosing wasn`t being given often enough and for safety reasons, didn`t want to overdose. But the one dose a day was not proving effective at all.

Yes, they do have a whiff of pepe le pew! But they are worth it. Some good tips there also from Engel. x
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Old 12-17-2020, 12:47 PM   #18
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Haha pepe le pew!!!! Great name for a mouse. Love that cartoon.
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All meecies doing really well. They are just sooo tiny and sooo cute!

First pic Lizzy and Toni (Lizzy is the smallest of them all)
Second pic Misha and Erin (brown)
Third pic their borneo xl set up front view
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All meecies doing really well. They are just sooo tiny and sooo cute!

First pic Lizzy and Toni (Lizzy is the smallest of them all)
Second pic Misha and Erin (brown)
Third pic their borneo xl set up front view
Fourth pic side view
OMG flower fairy they're beautiful... Would be tempted to adopt some in the future, especially as there's a mousery(?) near by. I thought about it before I got the rats. Trouble is I know nothing about them! Any dos and don'ts? What are cage size recommendations?
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