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Old 09-17-2022, 01:56 PM   #11
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Default Re: Looking for syrian hamster breeders in Kent or Essex area

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When you say you dont want to rescue as the hamster could be from a rodent mill, are you worries about their genetics?
I want to know where the baby's from that the parents are healthy and preferably gd history on the perants and grandparents and so on
The breeder Im on the wait list for has been breeding for 30+yrs and was happy to show me set ups and talk with me about where she gets her hamsters
She answered all my questions and has great feedback from other buyers
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Old 09-17-2022, 02:10 PM   #12
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So, if you can't get a pedigree hamster from a registered breeder because there aren't any near you, you need to get a hamster from a hobby breeder who breeds for money?

I would ask how many times she breeds a hamster but there's no guarantee of a truthful answer of course.
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Old 09-19-2022, 10:14 AM   #13
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So, if you can't get a pedigree hamster from a registered breeder because there aren't any near you, you need to get a hamster from a hobby breeder who breeds for money?

I would ask how many times she breeds a hamster but there's no guarantee of a truthful answer of course.
She breeds her hamster no more than 3 times same as her rats and gerbils
I don't see the harm in just once to get a hamster from a breeder �� iv rescued most my hamsters and other pets and for once just getting one from a baby that I know the parentage and history to see it from just a few days old to when I bring it home to know its healthy and not been breed in a rodent mill which most rescue ones will have been
Im not going to feel guilty about just 1 time getting from a ethical breeder
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Old 09-19-2022, 10:28 AM   #14
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A registration with a hamster council/organisation is not the be all and end all and doesn't say anything about a breeder's standards or ethics. There are no welfare checks required to register a prefix with the NHC as it isn't intended to be an approved breeder list. NHC breeders are hobby breeders too.

I would look at the standards and ethics first and make registration with any particular organisation a secondary concern.

If you are personally satisfied with the breeder you've found there's no need to feel guilty about adopting from them.

I have heard of a breeder called Alpha Hamstery or Alpha Stud if that's close enough to you.
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Old 09-19-2022, 10:43 AM   #15
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She breeds her hamster no more than 3 times same as her rats and gerbils
I don't see the harm in just once to get a hamster from a breeder �� iv rescued most my hamsters and other pets and for once just getting one from a baby that I know the parentage and history to see it from just a few days old to when I bring it home to know its healthy and not been breed in a rodent mill which most rescue ones will have been
Im not going to feel guilty about just 1 time getting from a ethical breeder
I'm not trying to make you feel guilty. I have myself bought hamsters from the petshop, from a breeder and the majority have been rescued.
I suppose after rescuing, rehoming (usually to myself) and volunteering for rescues, i've become more aware of the number of hamsters in need of a good home and will do anything i can to encourage people to adopt.
Buying from a petshop or a breeder indirectly supports more breeding and sometimes i get a bit carried away with my mission to help unwanted hamsters to a loving home.
I do apologise for that.
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Old 09-19-2022, 12:22 PM   #16
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A registration with a hamster council/organisation is not the be all and end all and doesn't say anything about a breeder's standards or ethics. There are no welfare checks required to register a prefix with the NHC as it isn't intended to be an approved breeder list. NHC breeders are hobby breeders too.

I would look at the standards and ethics first and make registration with any particular organisation a secondary concern.

If you are personally satisfied with the breeder you've found there's no need to feel guilty about adopting from them.

I have heard of a breeder called Alpha Hamstery or Alpha Stud if that's close enough to you.
I did look into him but after reserch concluded he is not ethical
He rufused to show his setups rehome the babies at 5 weeks and when I asked about him on a hamster group someone said he's unethical to which he had someone message saying she was mentally unstable and his excuse for not showing cages was because of his family's privacy which is a load of bs as you can show cages without anything else in the pic
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