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08-21-2022, 01:57 PM
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#111
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PM Fluffy for custom title
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,545
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Re: Duna maxi multy
Generalized softwood is very risky if I'm honest. It can be any wood species, and not all softwood species are safe for hamster use.
As far as pine goes, generally for toys even without being kiln dried you're unlikely to have the same kinds of impacts that pine as substrate would cause. That being said to complicate things further you can never fully remove all the phenols with kiln drying(as it doesn't get hot enough to actually remove the phenols), and it does seem like even kiln dried pine sort of reactivates in terms of phenols based on the observations of others - so I would not use any sort of pine as substrate personally just knowing the phenols will always be there.
With substrate, you have a significantly larger surface area than a toy or platform for example. I would lean towards toys definitely being made from pine as fairly safe but unfortunately a lot of companies use nails and questionable glues or other things to make them further unsafe.
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08-21-2022, 02:03 PM
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#112
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Adult Hamster
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 384
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Re: Duna maxi multy
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Originally Posted by AmityvilleHams
Generalized softwood is very risky if I'm honest. It can be any wood species, and not all softwood species are safe for hamster use.
As far as pine goes, generally for toys even without being kiln dried you're unlikely to have the same kinds of impacts that pine as substrate would cause. That being said to complicate things further you can never fully remove all the phenols with kiln drying(as it doesn't get hot enough to actually remove the phenols), and it does seem like even kiln dried pine sort of reactivates in terms of phenols based on the observations of others - so I would not use any sort of pine as substrate personally just knowing the phenols will always be there.
With substrate, you have a significantly larger surface area than a toy or platform for example. I would lean towards toys definitely being made from pine as fairly safe but unfortunately a lot of companies use nails and questionable glues or other things to make them further unsafe.
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But what about this platform, made of hardwood, is that okay? Trixie Rabbit Shelter & Resting Spot - Skjul & Hvileplass til kanin - Tropehagen.no - Dyrebutikk.no
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08-21-2022, 02:08 PM
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#113
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Adult Hamster
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 384
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Re: Duna maxi multy
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Originally Posted by cloudy
I agree with you. I have found it is not easy to find suitable hamster things too.
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It will be mainly the houses and tunnels in the cart
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08-21-2022, 02:10 PM
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#114
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Whimzee dealer
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: World
Posts: 1,912
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Re: Duna maxi multy
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Originally Posted by Rashy
It will be mainly the houses and tunnels in the cart
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I hope you can find things you like.
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08-21-2022, 02:42 PM
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#115
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Adult Hamster
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 384
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Re: Duna maxi multy
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Originally Posted by cloudy
I hope you can find things you like.
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I`ve checked the house made of teracotta/ceramic, and its actually smaller then the store says it is :O
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08-21-2022, 02:43 PM
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#116
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Whimzee dealer
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: World
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Re: Duna maxi multy
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Originally Posted by Rashy
I`ve checked the house made of teracotta/ceramic, and its actually smaller then the store says it is :O
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Oh no! It is good you checked it. Maybe there is a bigger one you can buy?
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08-21-2022, 02:45 PM
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#117
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PM Fluffy for custom title
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Re: Duna maxi multy
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Originally Posted by Rashy
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Same idea applies unfortunately as it's also unspecified wood, so without knowing the wood species it's really impossible to guarantee safety.
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08-21-2022, 02:50 PM
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#118
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Adult Hamster
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 384
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Re: Duna maxi multy
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Originally Posted by AmityvilleHams
Same idea applies unfortunately as it's also unspecified wood, so without knowing the wood species it's really impossible to guarantee safety.
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Okay, then I wait. Its so frustrating that they dont can be more spesific at these things.
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08-21-2022, 02:53 PM
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#119
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Adult Hamster
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 384
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Re: Duna maxi multy
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Originally Posted by cloudy
Oh no! It is good you checked it. Maybe there is a bigger one you can buy?
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I have made my order. Now it cant come fast enough :P
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08-21-2022, 04:56 PM
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#120
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Hamster Overlord
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: London
Posts: 763
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Re: Duna maxi multy
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Originally Posted by Rashy
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I use these platforms, including for gerbils which chew them a lot, without any problems. They're made of kiln-dried pine or fir.
The legs screw into the platform so it doesn't contain any nails.
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