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Old 05-09-2016, 05:07 AM   #1
Pebbles82
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Default Review of Rodipet Labyrinth DaVinci 41 x 26

Here's a review of the Syrian sized labyrinth house from Rodipet. It is a large house/nesting box, 41cm wide by 26cm deep and 11cm tall. Internal height is 10cm tall. The roof lifts off for checking inside.

https://www.rodipet.de/shop/haeuser/...x26cm-7cm.html

I would recommend a cage be at least 100cm x 50cm to use this house as it would take up too much floorspace in a smaller cage.

It has three main "rooms" in it. As expected, our Syrian opted to use the room on the left for nesting in, and the centre room at the back for his toilet. I think they instinctively nest in the darkest part away from the door and where they can have a wee corner nearby. The room on the right at the front is basically a "run" to access the top hole door.

There are three smaller compartments. The one left back is presumably intended for hoarding - I think Charlie has buried some hoards in there but has also buried some under his nest (but it's early days). The small compartment at the front is basically to stop light getting into the rear compatment. And the small compartment right back is basically to stop light coming in through the top entrance door.





There is no internal ramp up to the top door, but it's not too high for a fit hamster to pull themselves up through and it's a good way of going back down into the house



The flat roof is a good place for a food bowl, but for an older hamster it would be better to have the food bowl nearer the floor area/front door of the house, or make sure they have a ramp up to the house roof (as I've recently discovered!) in case they struggle climbing out of the top door.

The house is made of birch plywood and Rodipet say they use petsafe glues in making them. Although this makes it fairly light, the size of it still makes it quite heavy if it fell on a hamster if they tried to tunnel under it, so I reckon there are two ways to use the house.

The first way would be to have it almost as a subterranean house - sat on about half an inch to an inch of substrate (ie not enough to be able to try and tunnel under) and pile the substrate up around the house so it is only just above substrate level - then scoop out the substrate round the front door for access or put a tube or tunnel down to the front door.

I opted to put the house on short legs so it sits on top of the substrate and is the right height for a shelf in the cage. For that I used 25cm dowels stuck to the outside with pet-safe glue. To make the most of the floorspace, I have the right and back sides of the house sitting on the rim of the cage base, and just three legs to support the other sides - one about half way along the left side (too near the back and the curved cage base would be an issue) and two at the front. It's quite stable like this, but I did need to saw a little bit extra off the three legs to level it with the cage base rim.

10cm of the dowel is taken up by the height of the house so it is raised about 15cm.

This is the house upside down (so it looks like the legs are on the wrong side)



Right way up


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Old 05-09-2016, 05:07 AM   #2
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Default Re: Review of Rodipet Labyrinth DaVinci 41 x 26

Upside down - Charlie exploring it



It would probably be easier to have it as a subterranean house! The effect of having the house raised means that Charlie has made a bit of a burrow under his nesting room, which he seems happy with. If the house was lower he would probably have packed it out with nesting material instead (as he did in his old house).

Inside the house - I put the potty in once I knew he was peeing in that corner/compartment - which I had hoped he would choose!



He's under that burrow on the left



I think having the house either way would be good and it would just be used differently.

1) If it's subterranean they could use the extra rooms more for visible hoards rather than burying them and would probably enjoy going "down" to the house as if it was a burrow, but if it was in a fairly tall cage like the Barney I reckon it would either need a hemp mat on top or a shelf over it as it would be a long way to drop onto it - or both as most shelves aren't that deep.

2) Raised on legs it allows them to burrow and to dig under/in and out of the house if they want - but then you need to watch out pressing toys firmly down near the house - Charlie's burrow actually goes partly outside the boundary of the house so I couldn't put a bendy bridge there - or press it down firmly to make it stable as he was underneath the substrate! So a few things to watch out for, as with any set up.

I do think it makes a nice extra shelf in the Barney though, raised up on its legs (cage is only partly set up here).



I wondered if 10cm internal height would be high enough for a large Syrian but the height seems bigger than you'd think and seems fine. Plus it means it's not too high to climb out of the top hole.

It gives a large, dark nesting box and space for nesting, hoards and a separate toilet area and makes a nice shelf/flat roof. So I think the Germans maybe have it right when they say houses with rooms in work well - it makes a division between the nesting area and toilet area. Before Charlie had a large open house and the nest used to fall into the toilet, but it was ok as well really.

The roof is quite large to lift on and off, but came off easily without making a noise, until I plastikoted inside which made the roof stick a bit, so I had to sand the roof pegs down a bit inside and sawed them off shorter. It would have been better not to plastikote the inside of the roof! It wouldn't need to come off all the time anyway - but it's handy for emptying the potty and checking on hoards without the nest collapsing and without having to take the whole house out.

There is also a smaller version for dwarf hamsters in the same design, plus some different layout designs for dwarf hamsters.

You could probably makes something similar if you're good at diy - it's basically a box with a lid and compartments with holes cut in.

It isn't that cheap 29.95 euros works out approx £23.60 and postage is another £7. But providing it's plastikoted inside it's the kind of house you wouldn't need to change or upgrade for a bigger one ha ha. It works well as a dark nesting box with space for weeing and hoards and to do hamstery things like have a dark entrance run.

I would say the only slight downside is the large roof and some of the three room rodipet houses have three smaller lift-off roofs, but I'd still get the same one again, for the easy layout and easy access for the hamster (he can get in and out without climbing over the top of the toilet).

There is another version exactly the same, same price but with an inset terracotta dish on top which would be good for putting hamster food on and keeping their nails short at the same time - also, when lifted out, it leaves another large access hole on top so there would be less need to take the roof off - you could empty the potty/check on the hamster just by lifting the terracotta dish off.

https://www.rodipet.de/shop/haeuser/...erracotta.html

I nearly got that one, and only didn't because I already had a granite slab to sit on the roof and other toys and wanted to keep everything similar to before. As it happens I've rearranged the roof area anyway as Charlie is an old guy now and I wanted to keep his food etc at floor level so he doesn't have to climb up unless he feels like it, rather than having to to get at his food.

Because there is no ladder or ramp to access the top of the house, I think some kind of external access to the house roof is a good idea, so that the roof top hole is an option rather than a necessity for going on top of the roof. It's more for going down than climbing up I reckon. So a ladder or bendy bridge up to the roof would be a good idea as well.

It's the best hamster house Charlie has ever had and he seems to be enjoying it. And it's a good reason to have a 100cm cage - so you can have a large house and still lots of floor area

I haven't put pros and cons because I can't see any cons really

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