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Old 10-22-2015, 07:31 AM   #1
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Question Adapting a cage for an elderly ham?

Seb is now a fully fledged old boy and is really slowing down. He lives in a Hamster Heaven and is starting to find the tubes to the penthouse a bit of a struggle. However, he loves the tubes, so I feel mean taking them away altogether.

Has anyone adapted a Hamster Heaven for an elderly hamster, to make access easier? If so, could you please share your ideas?! Thank you!
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Old 10-22-2015, 08:57 AM   #2
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How much space do you have on the floor of the cage?
You could remove the penthouse & just lie the tubes flat in the cage if he enjoys using them, if he's struggling to climb now it will only get harder for him so you may well have to remove them in case he slips or falls & hurts himself before too long anyway.
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Old 10-22-2015, 09:06 AM   #3
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How much space do you have on the floor of the cage?
You could remove the penthouse & just lie the tubes flat in the cage if he enjoys using them, if he's struggling to climb now it will only get harder for him so you may well have to remove them in case he slips or falls & hurts himself before too long anyway.
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He has a fair bit of space - he has a wooden bridge, coconut and his sand bath on the floor, so that could well be an option. Can sense plenty of tinkering about going on!
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Old 10-22-2015, 09:27 AM   #4
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I'm afraid the design of the HH isn't too great for adapting for elderly/injured hamsters. There are a couple of things you can do to make things easier:

- Get a bendy wood tunnel thing and some sisal string. Use the string to turn the tunnel into a suspension bridge between the pink and green platforms (at the back where they're closest; you can put it at a slope, and doing this is surprisingly secure). Due to the bad design of the ladders, I do this anyway no matter the age of the hamster.
- Remove most of the tunnels. Sorry. =( If you have just one of the 'elbows' coming out the bottom of the penthouse, and then one of the shorter straight tunnels connected to that and pointed to the pink platform, you'll have an easier way for your hammy to get in and out of the house.

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Old 10-22-2015, 10:33 AM   #5
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Default Re: Adapting a cage for an elderly ham?

The cage is plenty big enough even without shelves and tubes really, especially for a ham coming into retirement. I think if you take all the extras away and leave a big open cage with plenty of bedding and maybe a larger kind of tube, like the flexible tuff tube (only saying this because I had one in my HH and it went down very well) buried under or semi buried in the substrate it would be plenty for little Seb to do the Savic tubes with the right angles look tough even for young hams sometimes, I don't really like them I have to say.
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Old 10-23-2015, 05:47 AM   #6
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Thanks. Some good ideas to consider. He still likes to climb (I know!) so am keen to let him do so, until it becomes obvious he can't manage it. The boy is a loon. He has thick flooring anyway, as he used to climb onto his wheel and then fall off. Will have a tinker around with his cage today. Do you think I can find the stoppers?? Can see me ending up in the loft at this rate!
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Old 10-23-2015, 11:54 AM   #7
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Hi my cage is exactly the same size as the Hamster Heaven. Same cage basically but with smaller bar spacing and no tubes or penthouse. I'll add a photo of Charlie's set up below, because basically - if you ignore his roof tube and sputniks, you can set up good floorspace. He has quite a large house with a lift off roof (for checking on him and his potty!) which doubles up as a low shelf. The bendy stick bridge tunnel over the house entraance allows access to the top of the house. It is a huge house and takes up about a third of the width of the cage, but if you don't want to put a potty inside there is a smaller version that is still a good size and makes a good low shelf.

Anyway basically you could stick to deep substrate and floor toys and maybe have a grass hammock hanging down really low near the substrate so he can get in it easily and have a bit of a swing! If you can imagine Charlie's set up without the sputniks (he has a vine branch in the front left corner that could be lower down so he can't climb it and fall). And without the long bendy bridge. The small log under the long bridge is a carrot stuffed log and Charlie spent hours and hours on this for a good few months. First he chewed all the bark off and then spent ages trying t get the carrot out of the middle, so that could be something good to add to the floor of the cage too.



Carrot log roll

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rosewood-Bor...arrot+log+roll

Grass hammock - you could extend the length it hangs down to with some sisal string maybe.

http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/small_...es/mats/204595

I would block off the tubes and take the penthouse off and as Cypher says, use a couple of the tubes as floor toys, maybe partly under the substrate. They tend to like something to sit under as well, so the grass hammock would provide that rather than a shelf.

You could also have quite deep substrate - mine is currently filled almost to the top of the cage base - and hide a few things in it for him and scatter feed half his food and put the other half in his bowl. This should keep him interested exploring the cage and distract him from missing his previous set up! I had one of the coconut topped cardboard hay houses on the floor of the cage (ie under the substrate) to support a piece of granite - then I moved the granite somewhere else and forgot the hay house was under there. Charlie dug the top of the substrate a bit, found the coconut top and had great fun nibbling it!

He has a carrot topped one as well (I think they only do the coconut topped ones at Christmas). So that would be something fun to partly bury and he can chew at it.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rosewood-Nat...t+topped+house

This is a more recent set up when he had a smaller house and substrate piled high - so plenty of floor space, plus an egg box which I hid treats in the little indents.



This is his current set up with his huge rabbit house with a lift off top. Because the house is so tall it sits right on the base of the cage so it can't fall on him if he tries to tunnel, but I can still have the substrate around it really deep and it provides a low shelf. Labyrinth houses are also good - and he might like something like that to replace his penthouse house. The trixie leif labyrinth house is the same size as the rabbit house in charlie's cage below (except not as tall).



Rodipet make a great labyrinth house for a syrian - it would fill the width of our cages and also provide a low shelf. It sticks out about 3cm further than my current house though so would take up a lot of floor space in the cage and would be better in a 100cm cage.

http://www.rodipet.de/shop/haeuser/r...rinth-xxl.html

I think you could make a floor level only cage really interesting for him You can also section of areas of different levels. You can just see on the second photo I have a medium sized bendy stick tunnel as a fence separating a high substrate area from a low one. You could also use a cork tunnel to do something like that as well.

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Old 10-23-2015, 01:56 PM   #8
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Wow! Looks fantastic! So many different ideas to consider... Will take all of this on board and report back once Seb's new set up is complete. xx
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