Bands for shows

[Bunsey]

no, i don't wana hire a band for a show. i know i wanted a buffet for mine but a band is a bit far

anyway, i saw this picture ad it gave me Qs about showing bands.


http://www.pets-classifieds.co.uk/image/51457.jpg

This to me looks a really good band. am i right?

When it comes to the band judging, how much weight is on the band compared to other stuff like type etc. Say you had 2 hams. one has perfect band and is a pet shop ham or something and one has a rubbishy band but is of BIS quality for type etc. Which one would score higher?

[Bourne Valley Hams]

Originally Posted by Bunsey

This to me looks a really good band. am i right?

Not especially. This band is a little too wide - there should be a third colour, a third band, then a third colour. The band should not have any colour in it at all - this one has colour almost all the way through the centre.

Originally Posted by Bunsey

When it comes to the band judging, how much weight is on the band compared to other stuff like type etc. Say you had 2 hams. one has perfect band and is a pet shop ham or something and one has a rubbishy band but is of BIS quality for type etc. Which one would score higher?

30 of the 100 points are for colour and markings. For a banded hamster therefore 15 of the 30 are for colour and 15 for the band. So a perfect band could account for 15 marks out of 100 maximum.....in theory!!
I will try and take a picture of Zubrovka (my Pernod & Grappa baby) in the next day or two - her band is pretty good!!

[souffle]

They are marked separately Bunsey. For the colour / patterned part 15 points would go to the colour and 15 points to the pattern so a good band might get 14 for the band but only maybe 8 for the colour if it was not great. Not a bad score really however when the judge got to the type part one hamster might score very low for the the type against a breeder hamster of excellent type. After the other factors have been added in you can see that the band, even if it is excellent plays a fairly minor part in the overall score.

[Spuds Mum]

Originally Posted by Bourne Valley Hams

Not especially. This band is a little too wide - there should be a third colour, a third band, then a third colour. The band should not have any colour in it at all - this one has colour almost all the way through the centre.

30 of the 100 points are for colour and markings. For a banded hamster therefore 15 of the 30 are for colour and 15 for the band. So a perfect band could account for 15 marks out of 100 maximum.....in theory!!
I will try and take a picture of Zubrovka (my Pernod & Grappa baby) in the next day or two - her band is pretty good!!

Oh yes please - the last time we saw her she was only about 3 weeks old - it is that one right, when you introduced the 3 litters - at the same time as the rex litter?? I would dearly love to see her again!

[Bunsey]

right i think i get it. Your better with the lesser band on an excellent type then. I would love to see pics of good bands. I was just thinking it was good cos it was a fairly straight line.

[Matty Day]

just out of intrest what are harder to show banded or roans?

bndeds look hard to show im glad i dont like them as they look hard to show

[Bunsey]

Originally Posted by Matty Day

just out of intrest what are harder to show banded or roans?

bndeds look hard to show im glad i dont like them as they look hard to show

i think they're both pretty hard. i've never seen a patterned win BIS at a show i was at.

i LOVE bandeds! i'd love to breed them, but the randomness does put me off as they might not sell if people can't show them.

[Bourne Valley Hams]

I have had BIS with both sable roan and cream roan and also with a cream banded. Never won a show with a dom spot though. The last hamster I had that had a very good band and good type etc consistently did very well at show, always coming near the top of the show. Well, I still have her actually but she's long retired now!!

[Bourne Valley Hams]

Originally Posted by Bunsey

i LOVE bandeds! i'd love to breed them, but the randomness does put me off as they might not sell if people can't show them.

Never a problem - people wanting a pet will almost always pick a banded, however bad the band, if there is a choice.

[Matty Day]

Originally Posted by Bourne Valley Hams

Never a problem - people wanting a pet will almost always pick a banded, however bad the band, if there is a choice.

do you find roans are popular?