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Old 10-16-2012, 04:01 PM   #1
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Snow, my little boy winter pearl, hadn't touched his dinner yesterday, and I think he ate little (or none) of his lunch. He hadn't been up and about overnight (which he is usually), he just stayed in a corner of his cage and slept, occasionally waking up to see what's going on around him before dozing off again. When I took him out just now, he just sat there, in the palm of my hand with his nose twitching, sniffing around. He's never stayed in one place (more so on the palm of my hand) after he's gotten out of his cage. When he finally decided to come off my hand, his movements were very slow, as though he were very cautious, or sleepy. Despite this, his eyes are bright and his droppings are normal. I am worried. Is anything the matter with him?
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:16 PM   #2
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Aww, I'm sorry to hear this . How old is your ham? could it be that he has a secret stash of food and has been eating from there instead?
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:24 PM   #3
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I got him last month, I am unsure of his age.. Well, he emptied out his pouches yesterday and I cleaned out the ones that looked 'old'. His behavior is very unusual, and that's what's worrying me ;(
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Hmmm, has anything changed in his environment? it's hard to say, if you see he is going downhill I can only suggest a vet trip
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:06 PM   #5
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Uhm.. Only that I introduced a peanut butter flavored treat stick, and a litter pan with bathing sand in it. Other than that, everything's pretty much the same. Will keep a close watch on him and do what's necessary
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:50 PM   #6
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You mention lunch and dinner - how often do you feed him? I found that when I was topping food up daily my hams would pick out the yummy fattier bits and leave the healthy bits of food so I feed a good amount every other day. I only usually remove food in the store if it is fresh food and likely to go off.

I second the advice above that if he doesn't perk up or gets worse in himself then it would be wort a vet trip.
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Old 10-21-2012, 12:10 PM   #7
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You mention lunch and dinner - how often do you feed him? I found that when I was topping food up daily my hams would pick out the yummy fattier bits and leave the healthy bits of food so I feed a good amount every other day. I only usually remove food in the store if it is fresh food and likely to go off.

I second the advice above that if he doesn't perk up or gets worse in himself then it would be wort a vet trip.
I'm sorry for the late reply, Vectis. Uhm.. I have a food planner i made for them. Some days it's fruit for lunch, other days may be veggie/protein foods then at dinner i give them their usual food mix. I've been searching high and low for a good quality hammie food mix, but been failing to find any so far.

I've been reading up on diabetes and hammies recently, I think my boy might be (touch wood) diabetec. His pee smells strangely sweet. that's the only observation i've managed to make so far. I have removed corn entirely from their diet. anything else i can do?
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Old 10-21-2012, 12:36 PM   #8
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It might be best to cut the fruit out and just give veg. Fruit is quite high in natural sugars
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Old 10-22-2012, 03:15 AM   #9
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If you suspect he is diabetic the first thing to do would be to test him. This can be done using urine test strips which in the UK can be bought at pharmacies or on amazon. There's more info on testing here: Diabetes in Hamsters - Vectis Hamstery . If he is unwell, I would suggest getting him to a vet even without testing as vets can do it too. I wouldn't go by smell alone. I have some hams with sweet smelling urine who have persistently tested negative for diabetes.

I would agree with cutting out the fruits and sweet treats. Pure winter whites are not that prone to diabetes, but hybrids are.
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Old 10-22-2012, 05:25 AM   #10
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It might be best to cut the fruit out and just give veg. Fruit is quite high in natural sugars
Roger that. i have been giving them lesser fruits already

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If you suspect he is diabetic the first thing to do would be to test him. This can be done using urine test strips which in the UK can be bought at pharmacies or on amazon. There's more info on testing here: Diabetes in Hamsters - Vectis Hamstery . If he is unwell, I would suggest getting him to a vet even without testing as vets can do it too. I wouldn't go by smell alone. I have some hams with sweet smelling urine who have persistently tested negative for diabetes.

I would agree with cutting out the fruits and sweet treats. Pure winter whites are not that prone to diabetes, but hybrids are.
Oh.. Uhm.. (sorry, weird question) are the strips meant to test human urine? Thank you for the link, will go through it in a bit. He's just been sleeping more than usual, and (i just found out after reading somewhere that my girl, Amber is a hybrid ) so is Amber. You'd think me abnormal if i were not worried lol. The weather here's hot and humid all year round, so i guess it's not a factor in their change? I'm also giving them more proteins.
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