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Old 03-30-2022, 09:29 PM   #11
arnoldshirl
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Quikrete all purpose sand? The coarse sand that has very small stones in it? That doesn't sound safe for my little lady. She is the size of a chicken's egg and not expected to play in substrate that is coarse. Does baking it make it softer? I am not a rocket scientist but I don't think it would make it softer, just kill any bugs living in it is all. And I am not stating that you mentioned it would, don't misunderstand me there. I have some Quikrete All-Purpose Sand in the garage, but it is what I used to mix with my concrete. If this is the Quikrete you are referring about, then I will stay paying the price for repti sand.

There's a lot of products that are hard to come by now-a-days. Something about companies unable to export, at least that is what I am being directly told from suppliers. I am definitely not going to even attempt products with any scents. I have seen quite a few on YouTube have colored substrates and some of those products I have seen in PetSmart and even at my local Pet Shop, they are scented or dyed. States it on their packaging. I will not risk my hamster's life with these products.
Worse case scenario of me running out of substrate will be me having to shred an entire package of toilet tissues for her until I find the right and safe substrate.
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Old 03-30-2022, 10:06 PM   #12
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It wouldn't be all purpose, it would be a play sand. You definitely wouldn't want anything coarse or with stones in it!

Honestly with my rats I started out using the plain cheap toilet paper from Walmart(around 60 cents or so for a 4 pack) as their main substrate. It worked fine for them but since then I've switched to shredding my own plain paper bags instead since they prefer the texture and they can make their own nests with it very easily. It's not the most convenient choice, but it's another decent option to have especially in a pinch.
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Old 03-31-2022, 12:16 AM   #13
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Thank you. It was a nail biting beginning on getting her in this bigger tank. Has me wondering now if my future plans of making a bigger place is really wise. I could maybe keep her in this place and continue letting her stretch her energy longer in the play pen area. I don't want her or even myself to go through this stress of her even having a moment of unhappiness.
I understand your concerns because i'm in a similar quandry.
I have a foster Robo living in a 30in x 12in tank which i believe is the equivalent to a 20 gallon tank. He gets out of cage time, shows no stress behaviours and appears to be an active and happy Robo.
I feel that i ought to move him into a bigger cage as soon as one becomes available because his tank is classed as too small by general opinion.
At the same time i'm a bit reluctant to do so because he seems so settled in his tank.
It can be very difficult to know what's for the best sometimes.
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Old 03-31-2022, 09:27 PM   #14
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I understand your concerns because i'm in a similar quandry.
I have a foster Robo living in a 30in x 12in tank which i believe is the equivalent to a 20 gallon tank. He gets out of cage time, shows no stress behaviours and appears to be an active and happy Robo.
I feel that i ought to move him into a bigger cage as soon as one becomes available because his tank is classed as too small by general opinion.
At the same time i'm a bit reluctant to do so because he seems so settled in his tank.
It can be very difficult to know what's for the best sometimes.
I feel you Ria, I was reluctant before and during the move-in to the 20 gallon tank. I know many still state the 20 gallon isn't the proper size, constantly expressing repeatedly the Roborovski's need bigger. But they are not observing daily how both your Roborovski and my Roborovski are content in the 20 gallon size. Roborovski's are small hamsters and they are intelligent too. They stress quicker than other hamsters, I have read this in different threads posted here in HC. I think we both can rest out reluctances and let our hamsters live stress free. Letting them out to play is seemingly working for both of us as well as for our little furry friends.
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Old 03-31-2022, 09:29 PM   #15
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While making errands in the city, again. I stopped by the Petsmart, again. I even signed up for something about ‘treat rewards’ because they mentioned it would save me money on my next purchases, whether they be online or in-store. This is a plus, considering now-a-days money needs to be treated as rewarding self’s savings.
While there in Petsmart I saw lots of people with their dogs on leashes and heard that they can enter this business with their pet. Really!? Imagine that! Well, this had me wondering while making the long drive back to my home, would I be able to take my hamster into Petsmart too? Let her sample some treats, like those dogs were? Let her pick out her toys too? Cinnamon Bun is a pet and she is smart and deserving of shopping for her favorite needs and wants too, like dogs.
Anyways, I got the sand from a hardware store. Was the second on my list of errands while there. It is called Quikrete Premium Play Sand and it’s a cream color bag with red and green lettering. I bought four bags and each are 50 lbs. so this should be enough supply to last her awhile. I’ll make sure I bake first, of course it will be only what’s needed at the time in her cage, not all the sand at once.
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