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Old 09-08-2018, 12:38 AM   #1
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Dwarf hybrids, Campbell’s, WW’s, can they be paired with different hamster species, such as robos’, Chinese hamsters, or Syrians? Can they be placed with other rodents, mice, rats, ect?
I’ve known this to be no, never mix hamster species, together.
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Old 09-08-2018, 12:55 AM   #2
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Yes it is correct that species should never be mixed or paired with different species. That isn’t to say it doesn’t happen - campbells & WW hybrids exist as a result of mixing of course to the point where the vast majority are not purebred. I’ve even seen russians and robos housed together in pet shops. Placing hamsters in with other rodent types sounds even worse. No species should ever be mixed. It’s also generally accepted that even dwarf hamsters are better kept alone than in same species pairs, as pets.
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Old 09-08-2018, 01:05 AM   #3
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Animal welfare charities are usually clear that Syrians should always be kept alone once they reach 6 to 8 weeks and before that only with their mother or siblings (and only same sec siblings after 4 to 5 weeks I think). And that groups of same species dwarf hamsters can be kept together. I think implicit in that is that different species should not be kept together. Have you seen this happening? I doubt that Russian dwarfs could mate with robos or Syrians and if they tried then pregnancy wouldn’t occur. They are more likely to kill each other than mate I think. But yes sadly Campbell’s, winter whites and hybrids would all mate and that’s why there are hybrids and risks of genetic problems leading to diseases etc.
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Old 09-08-2018, 01:19 AM   #4
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Animal welfare charities are usually clear that Syrians should always be kept alone once they reach 6 to 8 weeks and before that only with their mother or siblings (and only same sec siblings after 4 to 5 weeks I think). And that groups of same species dwarf hamsters can be kept together. I think implicit in that is that different species should not be kept together. Have you seen this happening? I doubt that Russian dwarfs could mate with robos or Syrians and if they tried then pregnancy wouldn’t occur. They are more likely to kill each other than mate I think. But yes sadly Campbell’s, winter whites and hybrids would all mate and that’s why there are hybrids and risks of genetic problems leading to diseases etc.
Yes, dwarf hybrids kept with robo. Also, told dwarf hybrids can be paired with other hamster species, due to in the wild, dwarfs live with other hamsters species, and other rodents.
I’ve always understood, hamster species such as dwarf hybrids should never be paired with any other hamster species.
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Old 09-08-2018, 01:26 AM   #5
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There really is a lot of nonsense out there! Of course various rodents will cross paths in the wild from time to time but they certainly wouldn't live together. I think it's best to just stick to what you know, all species to be kept apart from other species & ignore anything like this that you see or hear.
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Old 09-08-2018, 01:29 AM   #6
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There really is a lot of nonsense out there! Of course various rodents will cross paths in the wild from time to time but they certainly wouldn't live together. I think it's best to just stick to what you know, all species to be kept apart from other species & ignore anything like this that you see or hear.
Indeed. Cypher, i can see dangers of this is happening, or ppl are told it’s okay to do.
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Old 09-08-2018, 01:49 AM   #7
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Not ok and they aren’t in the wild! They are in captivity. They will have some wild instincts - mainly to be territorial and kill probably but if they are tame they are also likely to be under a lot of stress even if they aren’t being aggressive. Maybe find some authoritative literature and give it to this person and diplomatically suggest it isn’t in the animals best welfare interests. Some people just think they know best though and if it’s an individual there isn’t much more you can do - unless death or disease occurs and then it might be best to contact an animal welfare organisation. If it’s a pet shop I would contact an animal welfare organisation.
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Old 09-08-2018, 02:09 AM   #8
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Not ok and they aren’t in the wild! They are in captivity. They will have some wild instincts - mainly to be territorial and kill probably but if they are tame they are also likely to be under a lot of stress even if they aren’t being aggressive. Maybe find some authoritative literature and give it to this person and diplomatically suggest it isn’t in the animals best welfare interests. Some people just think they know best though and if it’s an individual there isn’t much more you can do - unless death or disease occurs and then it might be best to contact an animal welfare organisation. If it’s a pet shop I would contact an animal welfare organisation.
I agree! In the wild they can run away. In an cage, they are trapped!! It’s unsettling this is being told to people that have hamsters.
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Old 09-08-2018, 02:18 AM   #9
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Well, I’ll trust what I’ve learned and what others that are experienced with hamsters, agree it’s very dangerous to place 2 hamsters of different species together, and do hope people that advocate it’s okay to do, stop for the well being, safety of the hamsters.

Update: I did find on Wikipedia, in the wild, they have been known to share burrows, with robo’s, and stripped Chinese hamster. ( which is an different species than the domistacted Chinese hamster) Although, cages are not an replica of the wild, with abundance of space, 6 feet of burrowing capabilities ect., not is the hamster able to chose what they want, in terms of leaving a cage. The 2 should not be compared, to say, domesticated dwarf species cohabitation in an cage environment. It’s nonsensible advising this is safe to do.

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Old 09-08-2018, 08:28 AM   #10
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp..._dwarf_hamster

( click on Habitat)

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