Thanks again, i guess i'll have to see when they get here, i was aware they were old looking cages, but i'm not fussed, and it will be a nice surprise lol, i'll let you all know dimensions of the little one (and hopefully somewhere it will have something written on it lol).
Thanks souffle, the wire one does look awful and we are planning on using it mainly as clean out cage at most, but will keep it in case of dire emergency (i still have the cage pepper came in for the same reason)
I also won a 'mill hamster house' for 99p so including the alexander and the adapted home n play deluxe xl thingy we have (it has 2 full levels of 50cm by 40 after we adapted it) which is peppers cage for while we're away as its impossible to take the alexander 150 miles every couple of months lol, anyway we should have 6 usable cages and 2 emergency cages.
It will help to have extras anyway as eventually (in a good few years) me and hubby still want a small scale rescue or sanctuary
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