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Old 06-03-2022, 03:43 AM   #11
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Oh, wow. I'm definitely looking into it. I kind of just assumed it was somewhat impossible to find a mix that didn't need any partnering with pellets. I'm assuming you stop feeding the Junior Rodpiet diet after around 8 months of age? Sorry for the continous questions haha.
Sushi has answered your question but I just wanted to say, feel free to ask anything on here. You do not need to apologise for asking questions.
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Old 06-03-2022, 08:38 AM   #12
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Rodipet food isn't complete. You need to substitute your own insects every other day (or work it out more specifically based on the size of your hamster).

The Rodipet site also explains everything as to when you should upgrade onto the next food. The main difference is just the protein levels. I use the Teddy bear one for my Syrian, despite both Teddy and Syrian being the same animal. The Teddy bear one has more ingredients, and I like to think of my hamster getting a really varied diet.

I also feed him the bunny dwarf dream hamster mixes, both the dwarf and Syrian type. He isn't fond of the Syrian type since there are pellets in it, but I feed him all three types of foods with fresh food everyday.
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Old 06-04-2022, 06:14 AM   #13
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Would the "Rodipet® Organic Teddy Hamster Food ''SENiOR'' - 500g" be appropriate to feed a hamster lets say 6 weeks of age? It seems to have acceptable protein, fiber and fat levels while also maintaining high variety.
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Old 06-04-2022, 06:25 AM   #14
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Would the "Rodipet® Organic Teddy Hamster Food ''SENiOR'' - 500g" be appropriate to feed a hamster lets say 6 weeks of age? It seems to have acceptable protein, fiber and fat levels while also maintaining high variety.

Yes, but I would still give the additional insects. If the hamster doesn't like insects, you can give egg, chicken etc instead.
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Old 06-04-2022, 06:49 AM   #15
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Get the teddy junior. It's the one that is actually appropriate for Syrians regardless of age with a far more suitable protein level to start. While the teddy senior is among the better nutritionally of the senior foods Rodipet has, it is still extremely important for hamsters to have plenty of protein especially at such a young age when there's a massive amount of growing and developing to do still!

Also, Rodipet foods as far as the junior mixes(excluding Syrian junior which is fairly low in protein) are complete in terms of nutritional values. Some people might feel the need to add more protein, but that doesn't make them incomplete by any means.

The senior foods however I wouldn't bother with at all especially for such an incredibly young hamster who still has quite a long ways to go in terms of development & growth. In fact, you really wouldn't need the senior foods for a healthy adult(~1 year) either. Even for the genuine seniors it's not necessary with healthy hamsters and can ultimately lead to poor nutrition overall.
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Old 06-04-2022, 07:12 AM   #16
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It's not just about the crude protein. As far as macronutrients like protein and fat go, there's probably a lot of flexibility.

I like to always give some animal protein due to the various micronutrients (known, and theoretically, unknown) and amino acids which are more available or only available from animal foods. We don't know much about hamster nutrition so we don't know which of those nutrients they actually require but to cover all bases, I think it's good to provide animal protein. Rodipet foods are also formulated with the assumption that you will be feeding animal protein.
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Old 06-04-2022, 07:31 AM   #17
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I'm by no means the type of person to assume all protein is created equal - I do believe I've actually discussed that on the forum at some point in the past to some extent. Amino acids, bioavailability, and all sorts of other factors can make protein a very complicated thing but it is very fascinating in my opinion.

That being said, the protein level itself is still adequate. It would absolutely be ideal and strongly preferred to add extra high quality animal protein(egg for example being the most complete protein overall), but if for some reason someone didn't offer animal protein with the teddy junior for example it would still at least be good enough.

One could also say a diet lacking fresh vegetables for example isn't complete though at that point. We don't necessarily know all the micronutrients hamsters could be benefitting from with those but I'd personally imagine they may very well be extremely important even if not necessarily quite on the same level of importance as animal protein.
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