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Old 04-06-2011, 10:24 AM   #11
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They need to do an East Coast show =(
Someone should start a hamster club/association for that part of the country.
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Old 04-06-2011, 10:35 AM   #12
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That's interesting, thanks Jaybee.
Souffle has recently posted pictures of a marbled WW part way through this thread on another forum. It is such a pretty colour. Being a Chinesey person, I'm not entirely sure of the genetics. Hopefully someone else (I_N? Nooboo? Hint, hint ) can help!

Which bits of the standards are out of date, Jaybee? I've had a quick compare with my copy and all the new standards, e.g. dove campbells, are on the site. Things like mottled/pied robos and BEW chinese aren't there are they aren't standard.
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Old 04-06-2011, 10:44 AM   #13
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You're welcome! Souffle's hamster is precious! Hopefully this color will make its way over to us without being hybridized!

For one, on NHC Exhibition Standards - Dwarf (Any Other Species) - National Hamster Council I'm just looking at the WW colors. There is no merle listed there, but in the handbook appendix C like you said, it's listed there.

The pied robos are adorable and they have made their way over here. The CHA had a litter of them and I got some pictures a few months ago.
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Old 04-06-2011, 12:45 PM   #14
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I hope this explains the discrepancy you noticed.
The NHC colours are split similarly to the CHA: standard and non-standard. I understand that the CHA use a mix of their own standards and BHA ones. The exhibition standards are what is found in section C of the NHC handbook (different from Appendx C!).

standard
These have the detailed description found in the handbook, e.g. normal, pearl and sapphire WW, and can be shown in the main class in hamster shows. Getting a standard recognised involves presenting information about its origins (including evidence that it isn't a result of hybridisation), genetics and 3 generations of that colour to the standards committee. Then a provisional standard is used for 2 years when it is reviewed.

non-standard
These colours are recognised as naturally occuring mutations (therefore found in Appendix C) but do not currently have a standard, e.g. merle/marbled WW, opal and platinum campbells. I notice that opal campbells has a CHA standard, which is different to in the UK. They can be shown in the non-standard class which is judged for type etc but not given marks for colour.

Other Colours
There are new colours which have not yet been recognised as mutations, e.g. pied/mottled robo and BEW chinese, therefore they are not listed in Appendix C. I have caused debate among judges by asking whether or not these can still be shown in non-standard and am still none the wiser! Just as well I don't have any BEW Chinese yet to have to worry about it

I find it fascinating to see what happens in shows in other countries. Me and my Chinese hamsters would not do too well at the CHA though!
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Old 04-06-2011, 02:25 PM   #15
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thanks for all of that! it's very interesting to read! and i dont know why my stupid state outlaws rodents like ferrets, chinese hams, etc. i guess even dwarfs were illegal at one point. something to do with them possibly all getting let loose and forming a huge colony that will attack our farmlands in the central valley.
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