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Old 12-03-2011, 09:37 PM   #11
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I meant mazuri for a syrian and a robo
I feed my dwarfs oxbow and hazel with the corn and peas removed and mine are RC not hybrids I also already buy 2018 for the rats but I thought hams needed a higher protein content.
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Old 12-04-2011, 09:18 AM   #12
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That's great! Hams do well with 17%+ from what I've read. HT2018 is good, and you can always give bits of tofu and mealworms. I've been feeding RMH3000, which has 22% protein, but it's from animal sources, and my hams get it supplemented with other foods already, so I'm actually not sure which lab blocks I'll get next. Working on figuring out if the HT ones are otherwise better or worse in terms of vitamins and minerals.
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Old 12-04-2011, 11:01 AM   #13
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Harlan is the most highly recommended for rats and mice I havent tried Tofu I have done a few different meats and some egg soy milk cheese stuff like that. I personally dont want to give my RC Harlan because if I remember correctly it has molasses added.
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Old 12-04-2011, 06:49 PM   #14
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HT2018 does not have any added sugars. It's the high protein varieties that do.
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Old 12-04-2011, 09:07 PM   #15
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2018 is I think the highest protein variety they have ... I actually order native earth 4018 same formula though let me find the ingredient list ...

I thought they should not have ground corn ... I mean I remove corn from their diets currently.

Ingredients (in descending order of inclusion)- Ground wheat, ground corn,
wheat middlings, dehulled soybean meal, corn gluten meal, soybean oil,
calcium carbonate, dicalcium phosphate, brewers dried yeast, iodized salt, Llysine,
DL-methionine, choline chloride, kaolin, magnesium oxide, vitamin E
acetate, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity),
manganous oxide, ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, niacin, calcium pantothenate,
copper sulfate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin, thiamin mononitrate,
vitamin A acetate, calcium iodate, vitamin B12 supplement, folic acid, biotin,
vitamin D3 supplement, cobalt carbonate.
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Old 12-05-2011, 08:34 AM   #16
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They also have 22% and 24 or 25% varieties, which have molasses. I don't see anything wrong with some ground nonsweet corn in hams that don't yet have diabetes, as long as they don't get fatty and sugary ingredients otherwise.
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Old 12-05-2011, 11:34 AM   #17
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it doesnt say what kind of corn it is. and oh I didnt know I was only looking at the varietys common for rats I guess.

So would I just feed the labmix with the homemade seed mix ( just for variety its low in protein they get like 1 tsp) instead of feeding like hazel since it does have some sugar added?
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:53 AM   #18
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Hazel Hamster doesn't have any sugar added either. I just make sure there's a lab block to crunch on at any given time, and provide standard diet otherwise. Some hamsters love lab blocks and some will only nibble occasionally.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:10 PM   #19
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ok Thanks so much I had avoided lab blocks for their health. Better safe than sorry.
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