if i dont see any sign of them by 11 days should i ?

Matty Day · 04-01-2008, 01:14 PM

lift up athena bedding when she is out of the cage and see if there any pups there as there 8 days today should i see them any time soon ?

just thought i would ask as there no visaul sign yet

Holly · 04-01-2008, 01:20 PM

I wouldn't worry yet, Matty - it was 10 days before I even glimpsed my last litter and 8 days is too soon for them to be coming out on their own. I personally wouldn't risk disturbing the nest at this stage, it's far too risky.

Is mum spending most of her time in the nest? That's as good an indication as any that there are babies in there.

Matty Day · 04-01-2008, 01:22 PM

most of the day yes
and up to 11pm exept when i put food in yes when go down in the early hours she is up for a bit thougth.

no signs of cannallism thougth

and i heard somthing on sunday and i heard scraping from the nest when she wasnt in it last night

just me being paranoid being my first litter thougth. ill leave it to 14 days and see then

Matty Day · 04-01-2008, 01:45 PM

forgot to add she is more nervous than usaul

Bunsey · 04-01-2008, 01:57 PM

it was 16 days before i got to see my robo babies! i was so fed up that i lifted the layer of the ferplast duna up and peeked

**Spuds Mum** · 04-01-2008, 02:52 PM

I would leave well alone for a little longer Matty. They will be visible soon enough.
Athena is just playing with you - she knows how much you want to see them and is hiding them to make the surprise greater

Matty Day · 04-02-2008, 02:09 PM

well i have decided if there is no sign by 18 days i shall have a poke around if no pups i will remate straight away

she was out for alot of the time tonight but only for very short peroids most of the time only beetween food nest and stores

Matty Day · 04-02-2008, 02:24 PM

am i doing the right thing here? i realy do need advice athena is realy toying with my nerves

and im normly very laid back itf this keep up im going to have to open up that vodka i have got stashed away she is making me nervous as well as louis toe hes going to the vet on friday (first apointment avilible

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why do the love making me nervous

**Spuds Mum** · 04-02-2008, 02:32 PM

Oh it can be very nerve wracking Matty. The only thing I can suggest is that if you are sure she is okay in herself then to make sure she is fed and watered and leave her be.

I dont know really how long it can be before you would expect to see chinese pups out and about, but sooner or later I am sure if they are there then you will see them.

Are you hearing squeaks and movements still? the thing is Matty, there is only so much you can do anyway. You say that she is leaving the nest more, but for short periods, and that sounds like she is being a good Mum.

My current litter are a noisy bunch now, but were very quiet early on. Princess though was such a good Mamma, and made sure that they were all fed and comfortable so well, that we heard nothing from the pups.

Try not to worry, and my advice would be to save the vodka for the time being! Hope that Louis' toe is okay - Im sure it will be.

Holly · 04-02-2008, 02:43 PM

I think you are doing the right thing, Matt.

I'd suggest, in a day or two maybe (I think it's too early now) if Athena seems keen to come out to play you could get her out in her ball and put her in another room, then very carefully part the bedding with a stick or something (no hands) and see if they are there.

You must be careful not to leave your scent anywhere and put lots of yummy food in to distract her when you put her back.