Cracker had babies

**Ham Ham Hamstery** · 08-06-2011, 11:06 AM

Well 2 weeks ago she had them I forgot to post about it shes all white with black eyes I mated her with Frank shes got 4 babies a Cinnamon banded, Golden and 2 of which I think are Dominat spot of some sort which I didnt expect but Frank does have Dominant spot ancestry

mangoandmimi · 08-06-2011, 11:20 AM

Congrats, best of luck with the litter x

**Ham Ham Hamstery** · 08-06-2011, 11:22 AM

thanks the eyes are starting to open now I can see the glimmer of theyr little eyes

Amethyst_ice · 08-07-2011, 07:43 AM

I don't think you have dom spot as all your babies would be dom spot, most likely broken bands

hope they are all healthy x

**Ham Ham Hamstery** · 08-07-2011, 08:02 AM

Hmmm yeah but I have heard of this pattern called Speckled and Dominant spot banded from a breeder I was talking to

radiocricket · 08-07-2011, 08:35 AM

Goodness, breeder were you talking to? As I've stressed you with on several occassions, you need to learn about genetics BEFORE you breed, not after the fact. Especially when working with pet store lines in an area where the Whitebellied gene is known to be present, you could easily end up with Anophthalmic Whites. There is no such pattern or gene called Speckled.

Dominant Spot can not be carried. It is a dominant gene and a hamster either has it or not. Without knowing what the father is, I would assume the DS gene came from the mother and that she's not a true Black Eyed White but a Dominant Spot Cream, Yellow, Yellow Black or Sable. A true Black Eyed White is a Black Eyed Cream that's also homozygous Silver Grey. Of course, she could still have the Whitebellied gene as well.

River Road Hamstery's Syrian Hamster Genetics Tutorial

International Hamster Association of North America Breeder's Code

-Janice

**Ham Ham Hamstery** · 08-07-2011, 08:39 AM

I have never heard of DS Cream and stay on topic the father does have DS in his ancestry

radiocricket · 08-07-2011, 08:46 AM

I am on topic, you're trying to figure out where the DS came from. The father can not produce DS pups if he is not DS!! It is a dominant gene. How could you have not heard of a DS Cream? Patterns, with the exception of the Wh mutations, are independant of color.

Here's a Black Eyed Cream Dominant Spot:
Holmden Hill Haven's "Starry Eyed Surprise"

Please, take a look at the Syrian Genetics Tutorial. All the information that you need to be a knowledgable breeder is right there.

-Janice

**Ham Ham Hamstery** · 08-07-2011, 08:47 AM

All the places I looked never had DS Cream

Gizmodo ^_^ · 08-07-2011, 08:49 AM

Im going to look at the genetics tutorial
should be very interesting
id never be good as a breeder

so i never will lol