Cracker had babies - Page 2

**Ham Ham Hamstery** · 08-07-2011, 08:50 AM

I think you would be good Gizmodo you would be really good at it Im keeping one or 2 of her babies

Amethyst_ice · 08-07-2011, 08:55 AM

The Dominant Spot gene, Ds, produces patches of white over the head and body of the hamsters, as well as turning the belly fur white. The "coloured" patches can be any colour, including Golden, Cinnamon, Yellow and, (particularly striking), Black. The amount of white varies considerably between individuals; some look like "white animals with coloured patches", while others resemble "coloured animals with white patches".

Since this gene is dominant, it need only be inherited from one parent. Since the belly fur is white on Dominant Spot animals, it is impossible to be sure whether or not they also possess the white bellied gene, (Wh), which, (if present in both parents), can produce eyeless pups. To safeguard against producing eyeless young, a Dominant Spot animal can be mated to a non-Dominant Spot animal of the appropriate colour, producing around half Dominant Spot and half non-Dominant Spot young in the litter. A further complication occurs because Dominant Spotting is a "Homozygous Lethal" gene; embryos inheriting a copy from both parents, (if two Dominant Spot animals are mated to each other), die in the womb. This means that all Dominant Spot animals are "carrying" the ds gene, for non-spotted coats.

Cream is a light colour so the dom spotting may not be obvious

I know it is hard all these genetics!

**Ham Ham Hamstery** · 08-07-2011, 08:59 AM

LOL never thought of it AI I was told she was a Dark eared white or something like that

**Ham Ham Hamstery** · 08-07-2011, 09:00 AM

oh and one of the reasons Iv been breeding is to get DS hamsters rare where I am

Amethyst_ice · 08-07-2011, 09:02 AM

Does it make more sense ham ham from the description?

Patterns are- Banded, Dominant spot, Tortoiseshell (bi-colour), Calico (tri-colour), roan
that i can think of top of my head..."speckled" hammies may be dom spot but probably broken bands like a little fella had who is now owned by Deb called Hugo.

but as you can see, why needing to know the exact genetics is important and to know the risks involved

**LocoRocoPanda** · 08-07-2011, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizmodo ^_^

Im going to look at the genetics tutorial
should be very interesting
id never be good as a breeder

so i never will lol

XD Genetics is fun to learn about but it gets so complicated at times, I just put my head on the desk and sleep.

**Ham Ham Hamstery** · 08-07-2011, 09:05 AM

I know that breeding is risky by now I have had an entire litter die I was devastated and had a Mom die equally devastating and it made me question why I breed a little bit and made me stop for a while

Gizmodo ^_^ · 08-07-2011, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ham Ham Hamstery

I know that breeding is risky by now I have had an entire litter die I was devastated and had a Mom die equally devastating and it made me question why I breed a little bit and made me stop for a while

That must have been awful to lose the whole litter
I could just never breed due the risk of it

**Ham Ham Hamstery** · 08-07-2011, 09:08 AM

it was awful I felt horrible and like it was all my fault but the Mom had something called Mastiff and all her nipples were brown and crusty looking

radiocricket · 08-07-2011, 09:09 AM

You can't just think that if you can't find a photo of a color/pattern it doesn't exist. I've never seen a photo of a Chocolate Dominant Spot Banded but know that they exist. I could breed for them if I choose. It's about understanding genetics and identifying the genes within your own animals to breed toward certain results. Without understanding genetics, how can you even breed? At that point you're just randomly putting together hamsters.

-Janice