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Old 01-26-2016, 05:37 PM   #1
Lydia1981
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Hello

Just got my first hamster on 16th December called Tilly, and everything has been fine, so far

she eats and drinks, we feed her normal hamster food and treats from pet stores and also fruit and veg, I have also given her chicken on the odd occasion.

She has a little house which she sleeps in on the occasion when I have cleaned her cage, (I felt guilty as I cleaned her cage and tried to rebuild her bed for her but she obviously didn't like it because she slept in the house)
She sleeps the corner of her cage in a massive den she has made

Every morning I check on her and day goodbye as I go to work, and each evening when I get home I change her water and check/ replace her food then when she is awake she comes out for cuddles, ball time and a run around for maybe 2 hours,
We put her back in her cage and she runs on her ball, I check on her in the night aswell.

I guess I may scare her as I open the lounge door and turn on the light,

We had holiday booked for the weekend so booked Tilly in a hamster hotel while we were away, they said they would get her out each evening but I am not sure they did as when we picked her up in the car she was obviously scared as she didn't know what was going on, we got her home and she went mental running around, and in the ball she was whizzing around, I like to think she was pleased and glad to be back or maybe the hamster hotel didn't get her out?

It's now the 2nd day she is back and she seems jumpy, she runs on us and let's us pick her up for playtime, she loves sitting on my partners lap and sliding down his legs,
I don't know why she is jumpy, she ran to her normal spot in the hallway but started shaking?
I think maybe it's because the window was open and it was cold?

Also we have 3 mire weekends booked in the next 3 months so don't want the same thing to happen again, I understand she may be stressed moving again but we are hoping because it's the same place and it's the next 3 months she may get used to it and it will become a routine for her.

There is no one we trust here to come to our flat and check on her and we are new to the area, we don't want to leave her also alone,

Do you think she was cold that's why she was shaken? Also why was she jumpy?

Sorry for long post
Lydia
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Old 01-27-2016, 04:37 AM   #2
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Our hamster was like this after we left him somewhere while we were on holiday. I think he had just adjusted to the new environment while we were away, and then went completely bonkers when we moved him home again. It was quite distressing as the constant running around was clearly a sign of stress. And we took him in his own cage and he was in the same cage the whole time.

Any change of environment will stress a hamster, so it's important to try and minimise this. Like keep them in their own cage if they go and stay somewhere else, and ideally keep them in the same home environment. It's better if you can have someone come in to your home to put out food and water, especially if it's only for a week-end or a few days. They can be fine without coming out of the cage for a few days, or even a week, if the cage is big enough, and this could be better as someone unfamiliar may not be able to handle them or there is a risk of escape.

It took Charlie about 2 weeks to stop being bonkers after we'd been on holiday and he didn't instantly go back to his old routines either. Clearly 2 weeks is long enough for them to forget a routine. Some routines he never did get back, but some weeks later he enjoyed his out of cage routines again mostly the same as before.

A point about ball running - hamsters shouldn't really be in a ball for more than 15 to 20 minutes - they can't tell you when they want to get out . You can put them in again for another 15 to 20 minutes after they've been out of it for a bit though.

If you only got her in December she will have just started to get settled in and get some routines (it takes the first couple of weeks to settle in) and then it changed, and then changed back again, so she's probably a bit stressed. You can minimise the stress by having someone come round to feed her while you're away and by not doing frequent cage cleans. I've added Erin's Hamsters cage cleaning video below, it's full of really good tips that worked for me The trick is to have a good depth of substrate - 6" ideally. Digging tunnels in deep substrate is supposed to reduce stress levels for hamsters. Also when the substrate is deeper, you don't waste so much of it. You just spot clean (ie take out the odd handful of wet substrate and replace it with another handful and mix it in so it still smells familiar) and do full cleans less often. Even then you only do 'partial' cleans, so not replace all of the substrate in one go and clean the toys at a different time/week.

As she has just had a change of environment recently, it would be best to go back to the thing that is important when you first get them, which is leave them to settle in for two weeks. So during that two weeks, don't do any cleaning other than spot cleaning (although it's alright to add extra substrate and mix it in, if the depth isn't very deep). Maybe only get her out if she is showing signs of wanting to come out and limit the amount of time in the ball. Sometimes they run a lot because they are stressed rather than for exercise.

Also it sounds like maybe she isn't tame for handling yet? Taming can take a few weeks sometimes, gradually. The dry bathtub is a good place for taming so they can run around safely and get used to your scent and being handled.

I'm sure she'll settle down again soon. You could also try scattering half of her food in her cage. Put one half in her bowl and scatter the other half so she can forage for it. They like finding food in the cage and foraging and this might distract her a bit and help calm her down. And talk gently to her through the cage so she gets familiar with your voice and scent again.

Cage size is important to their well being as well. Minimum Uk RSPCA recommended size is approx 80cm by 50cm of continuous floorspace. If the cage is a good size she will be fine being left in it for a few days.

My tip for cage cleaning is - use a potty litter tray - hamsters use them if you put it in the corner they have chosen as a wee corner. You can put Chinchilla bathing sand in the potty and the first time, put a tiny bit of wee'd on substrate on top so she knows it is still her potty corner! Our hamster uses his potty and the rest of the cage stays dry! I just clean out the potty about every 5 days or so.

My other tip is - their nest. You mentioned her being upset about you removing the nest. Their nest and hoard are their numero uno big thing in life! It's best to try and not disturb the nest if possible. Obviously if it has been pee'd in and is wet and stinky, you need to remove most of of, but try and leave a bit of the dry part behind so it still smells familiar and she can then rebuild it. Using a potty helps with keeping the nest dry too. Torn up white toilet paper is the safest nesting material. If you put a pile of this out she will pouch some and take it back to her nest to rebuild it. A pile in the corner is fine for her nest and means she can build a bigger one too. Most houses are a bit small for a good sized nest. Houses with solid floors aren't good either as they sweat and get smelly. It's better if they are open underneath and sat directly on the substrate.

If the nest is dry I just leave it and don't touch it Also they get very stressed if their hoards are removed. They think a predator or some other animal has stolen their food and could start weeing on it to scent mark it. If the food hoard is dry, then leave it. If it has been wee'd on then it will need removing, but always put some new food back in the same place.

I'm sure soon she will get into a routine with you and things will calm down But see if you can get someone to come round and just put some food and water out next time you are away for a week-end. That's all they need to do for 2 or 3 days. And best if they do it during the day while she is asleep so there is less chance of her getting out of the cage while they are doing it.

Anyway here's Erin's cage cleaning video and I added a little video I made on bathtub training - it's not the greatest quality but has a few tips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jVnEjrXbww

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjyEme2xcq4

Last edited by Pebbles82; 01-27-2016 at 04:52 AM.
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Old 01-28-2016, 04:50 PM   #3
Lydia1981
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Hello


Thanks for the reply,

We took her in her own cage when she went, but you are right about her settling in for the month we had her then we moved her to go away and then moved her back again,

I thought she was tame as she sat on our laps and didn't squick or anything, she climbs on us,

She doesn't bite us or make any noises, she had chattering teeth once when I stopped her chewing our sofa 😃 And before we had our holiday she seemed comfy exploring the hallway especially but now When in the hall she shivers, don't know if its because she may feel a breeze if the window is open in the next room? But it's been open before our holiday

There's is no one we really know yet who we can ask about checking on her and I don't want to leave her alone in case she gets stuck behind the wheel, or gets hurt or something

I am going to try and tame her and hopefully maybe get a pet sitter who can pop in

Because we have 3 weekends things booked for Feb,March and April we thought she may get used to us going away and taking her to the hamster hotel😂 And think it's part of her routine.
Do you have a tips to tame her?
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Old 01-28-2016, 07:01 PM   #4
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Bathtub taming is good - I did a little video on it recently. It's not the greatest video and doesn't show much but does have some tips in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjyEme2xcq4
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