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I know what you mean, I find it impossible not to adore them all the more for their waywardness even though it does have me tearing my hair out sometimes lol!

Has she had the flying saucer in before? It sounds like a good solution if you can stop the flying saucer from flying round the cage, that's what mine used to do before I gave up on them! She might even learn to empty the silent spinner herself so she can use it for it's proper purpose when she wants to.