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Pebbles82 · 06-23-2016, 03:50 AM

When I wrote they said it wasn't economically possible to change all their manufacturing equipment to make a deeper base. That base does look fairly deep to me though - it's hard to tell from the photo, but the bars don't look any taller than my Barney bars, so if the base is 20cm deep then the cage isn't too tall really as that would be full of substrate

That's the idea.

If the base is only 16 or 17cm deep like the Barney and Alexander, then yes it's a tall cage.

It's quite easy fixing things to the roof through a large front opening door Pink Neon

You can get both arms inside well. Probably easier to do it with the top off the base though.

I just tried counting the bars

My eyesight isn't the greatest but I make it 32 bars.

32 x 9.5mm bar spacing makes the bars 30.5 cm tall - which means the base might be about 20cm deep - meaning it's an average height cage with a deep base for substrate. It could well be a 20cm base as that's the minimum depth of substrate requirement by law now in some countries like Switzerland (ie the cages have to fit 20cm depth by law, not the owners have to put 20cm in by law! I think!)

Anyway even if I've got the measurements wrong and it's a standard sized base then it's only a few cm taller than the Barney cage. Set up right it would be fine with one larger shelf and lots of substrate.

I just wish it was 7mm bar spacing! Still 9.5mm is good - less than 1cm.

Also the base seems to have small feet which would be included in the overall height. So without knowing the internal height and height of the base, it's hard to know exactly how much height we're talking about.

But if you look at the picture of that, next to something like the Borneo the bars don't seem as tall.

06-23-2016, 03:50 AM
Pebbles82 Hamster Antics Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 23,533	When I wrote they said it wasn't economically possible to change all their manufacturing equipment to make a deeper base. That base does look fairly deep to me though - it's hard to tell from the photo, but the bars don't look any taller than my Barney bars, so if the base is 20cm deep then the cage isn't too tall really as that would be full of substrate That's the idea. If the base is only 16 or 17cm deep like the Barney and Alexander, then yes it's a tall cage. It's quite easy fixing things to the roof through a large front opening door Pink Neon You can get both arms inside well. Probably easier to do it with the top off the base though. I just tried counting the bars My eyesight isn't the greatest but I make it 32 bars. 32 x 9.5mm bar spacing makes the bars 30.5 cm tall - which means the base might be about 20cm deep - meaning it's an average height cage with a deep base for substrate. It could well be a 20cm base as that's the minimum depth of substrate requirement by law now in some countries like Switzerland (ie the cages have to fit 20cm depth by law, not the owners have to put 20cm in by law! I think!) Anyway even if I've got the measurements wrong and it's a standard sized base then it's only a few cm taller than the Barney cage. Set up right it would be fine with one larger shelf and lots of substrate. I just wish it was 7mm bar spacing! Still 9.5mm is good - less than 1cm. Also the base seems to have small feet which would be included in the overall height. So without knowing the internal height and height of the base, it's hard to know exactly how much height we're talking about. But if you look at the picture of that, next to something like the Borneo the bars don't seem as tall. Last edited by souffle; 06-24-2016 at 04:58 AM.