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Old 08-25-2016, 08:32 AM   #1
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Question Is a Syrian hamster right for me?

Alright, first of all, I'm new here so hi! so, I am getting a small pet. I have done my research and figured out that I h ink I want a Syrian (short hair) hamster. I know I can take care of it, because I already take good care of a bunch of animals. I'm home schooled, so I will have plenty of time to play with it. I only want one. I am going to make a bin cage, with the big cutout roof and sides covered in wire, and I will get a wheel and some toys. For the bedding, I'm going to shred paper and put it down thickly because they burrow right? Will it be up when I am up? Where should I keep it?

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Old 08-25-2016, 11:45 AM   #2
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So, I'm getting a hamster. I have done my research, and I think I want a Syrian hamster. A. I only want one. B. They are supposed to be friendly. I will make a bin cage, with windows and the top cut out and covered in wire. I am planning on making the bedding shredded paper. I will be shredding my paper because we get free paper as much as we want and we have a paper shredder. Also I heard they liked shredded paper to burrow in. Can I make a homemade food? What about picking one out? I know it should not bite and be friendly and active, and no sickness signs, anything else or any tips ? I am homeschooled, so I have plenty of spare time to play with it. Anything helps, Thanks!
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Old 08-25-2016, 01:58 PM   #3
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Syrian's are generally nocturnal though some are up in day light.
Syrian's are only kept on their own as they will fight and try to kill each other.
As for a wheel at least 28cm in diameter, substrate Carefresh is widely used as is Aspen wood shavings.
For bedding suggest you use shredded toilet tissue it is probably the most used by owners.
Get a hamster house so your hammy can have a safe secluded nest.
Also consider making a sand bath for your Syrian as they love a sand bath.
Have a look on our Hamsters thread her name is Pippin you will see her wheel and her sand bath.
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Old 08-26-2016, 12:53 AM   #4
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most syrians's sleeping until night
syrians had to keep only one in a cage
some of syrian hamsters can be shy
other may be biter just like
people had different personality
same with hamsters
mostly syrian hamsters I got befor all shy
and sweet
I had black short haired syrian hamster right now
she's very shy around me still
but I got syrian hamster which was biter befor
you can choose hamster from personality
also when you goes to store night time
hamster should be active clear eyes
no discharge from nose
clean bottom no sign of wet tail
you can't make handmade foods for hamster
good luck
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Old 08-26-2016, 02:24 AM   #5
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If anyone asked me what hamster to get, I would 100% say a Syrian! I have a long-haired male, and he is the sweetest thing ever! He's never bit me, even during the taming process; so I've you've heard the common sterotype that Syrians are 'nippy' just ignore it! I'm not saying that all Syrians won't bite, as the personalty varies, however the majority will be quite shy since hamsters are prey animals.
Since they are prey animals, they are more likely to run away and hide, rather than bite, so make sure you provide him/her with a few hideaways!
Syrians are generally nocturnal, but they can (somehow) be trained to diurnal; however I think it's better to keep their natural sleeping pattern as they would in the wild.
A poll was done a while ago, here on hamster central, to see what time people's hamsters woke up - most people voted between 8 and 9pm, which is about right for me- cookie usually wakes up around 9 -9:30pm
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Old 08-26-2016, 02:48 AM   #6
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Hi there - your bin cage sounds good! Technically hamsters are "crepuscular" rather than nocturnal. Crepuscular means twilight. So it is used for animals that are primarily active at dawn and dusk.

But we do tend to think of them as nocturnal in that they are active at night and sleep during the day. But they vary in personality as well. I think crepuscular is right really though. Many Syrians will be out and about in their cages early evening, or first thing in the morning, and although they are very active overnight they will often go for naps during the night as well, in my experience of our Syrian.

They do need a lot of space at night though, when they are active, to get exercise and burn off energy and need a wheel big enough they can run in with a straight back (ie not an arched back). So ideally minimum continuous floorspace size of approximately 80cm by 50cm or bigger. Our Syrian was in an 80 x 50 cage and is now in a 100cm by 50cm cage. I found 80 x 50 a bit cramped with wheel and toys in. But it's still a good size.

The behaviour can also change with their ages as well, or their environment. We used to see our Syrian out in his cage a lot in the evening at first, particular in his wheel as that was new and exciting. Now he tends to not come out much except to nab his bit of fresh veg mid evening. If we get him out he is quite active early evening - 6 to 8pm, but between 8pm and 11pm he'll just curl up and go to sleep somewhere.

Anyway - some are more sociable than others, but one good thing about Syrians is they can usually be hand tamed quite easily, form a bond with you, and be easy to handle when you need to. For some this will happen quite quickly - others can take a few weeks and it needs patience.

It sounds like you have done your research and it's really good to hear someone getting everything organised before getting their hamster I wouldn't recommend shredded paper as a substrate if you mean paper from a shredder as it can give paper cuts and anything with ink on isn't good. There are a range of suitable substrates - paper based ones, Carefresh (wood pulp), Aspen. For nesting material, torn up strips of plain white toilet paper is best. You put a pile in the cage and they pouch it and take it somewhere to build a nest with.

Are you in the Uk or the US? There are different substrates available depending on where you are. In the Uk Fitch is a good option. It works out cheap and is bought in bulk from the manufacturer, but the smallest 10kg bag is not too bulky to store indoors. It is recycled food paper. Hammies seem to love it.

Where to keep your hamster/cage. Away from direct sunlight from a window or direct draughts from a window eg. Not near a TV. On top of a chest of drawers is an option some people use for a cage. The main thing is the cage location stays the same and you don't keep moving it around as they sense the change of environment and this causes stress. A bin cage could easily be kept on the floor in a bedroom eg, providing it was placed somewhere where it couldn't accidentally get kicked when you walk past - eg far end of bedroom or in an alcove or something.

Wheel - needs to be solid - not rungs or bars. 27cm to 30cm for a Syrian ideally. Some people use a 20cm wheel for a Syrian but they can grow out of this and then you end up having to buy another wheel, so good to start with a big enough one. Our Syrian grew huge and needs a 30cm wheel! The average Syrian is fine with 27cm/28cm wheel, like the Trixie wheel linked below.

They need a good sized house/nesting box that is dark inside, to build a nest in so they have somewhere to retreat to and feel safe and away from light. Ideally open underneath and sat on top of the substrate, so they can bury hoards in the house, plus it makes cleaning and checking easier. A cardboard box or shoebox with a hole cut in for a door would do.

Toys and houses sold for hamsters are often much too small for Syrians and tend to be only big enough for dwarf hamsters, so you need to check any entrance holes are at least 5 to 6cm in diameter to avoid "getting stuck" disasters. Rat sized toys and tubes are a good size for Syrians.

Their nest is their number one most important thing, so it's important to try and preserve it as much as possible. If it gets pee'd in you might need to remove some of it sometimes, but always try and leave part of it behind that still smells familiar.

Cleaning is something that stresses them out. Pet shop advice is usually clean them out every week, but Erin's Hamsters 8 cage cleaning tips 9below) is the method I use and works well with our hamster, avoiding stressing him out.

Food - it needs to be a good hamster mix, ideally without sugars and with a good enough level of protein. In the Uk Harry hamster meets the required nutrients. You can also supplement the protein a bit by a few fresh food "extras" 2 or 3 times a week - eg a piece of cheese, half a walnut or brazil nut, some pumpkin seeds. Just a very small piece about 1cm cubed or equivalent. Also supplement with fresh veg. Similar sized piece - broccoli, carrot, cucumber are my staples and alternate them for variety. Every 2 or 3 days to begin with and then every day when their tummies are used to it.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Trixie-Exer...s=Trixie+wheel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jVnEjrXbww

Another cage option, if you have the space, and is not expensive, is a detolf It's a hack from an Ikea glass cabinet, tipped on its side, the door left off and you make two basic lids out of strips of wood and mesh - probably easier than meshing a bin cage, as no panels to cut, but similar amount of diy. Then you get something like these

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ha...vvBecQ_AUIBigB

Can look very nice in a living room too!

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Old 08-26-2016, 04:29 AM   #7
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First of all, thanks everyone for the great info! @serenpidity7000 I live in the US. I have got a few recommendations from people that Higgins and Harry is good in the USA. Ordinarily I would put the cage on my dresser because I live in an upstairs room with two windows, and it is out of the light... however I have my fish there lol .so would the end of my bed be okay? I would kind of like it up off the floor because I've heard they don't like the vibrations of footsteps and stuff, but if it's OK to go there then I'm fine. BTW I will put pics up of my room.

For the shredded toilet paper should I just shred it in my hands?

When I'm looking for one at the pet store, I would like a young one, how will I find that out? Oh and cleaning. Will the sides get dirty like a fish tank? If they do can I use vinegar water? I'm assuming I should wash out its food dish and water bottle with soapy water once a week-ish? Refill it's water every day, and one teaspoon of food?

Can I make its toys? I like working with wood and making things, and I'm pretty decent at it. I was thinking mabye making little ramps and stuff up to platforms on the side. For the chew thing should I put rocks or a piece of wood in there, and if wood, which kind?

Thanks so much for everything guys! I just joined yestarday and ya'll already feel like fam.
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Old 08-26-2016, 06:03 AM   #8
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I think anywhere you put it is ok as long as it can't be knocked over or kicked when walking past End of bed sounds ok a) if you have a quiet wheel and b) if you don't stick your feet out of the end of the bed lol.

Toilet paper nesting material. I just take 5 or 6 sheets of toilet paper and tear each sheet lengthways into 5 or 6 strips. That is usually enough for a pile of nesting material for a while. That's just for the nest. For the bottom of the cage and burrowing you'd want something else for burrowing etc. eg Carefresh, Kaytee Clean and Cozy or Boxo. Also Oxbow Pure Comfort bedding is good (paper). I think Boxo and Kaytee Clean and Cozy are two of the more popular ones in the US with Boxo being the cheaper of the two as you can buy it in bulk. Carefresh is ok but some people find it a bit dusty. I have tried the Oxbow paper bedding called "Pure Comfort" and like it, but not sure how expensive it is in the US.

Cleaning. Hamsters are clean animals naturally and quite keen on housekeeping too! They clean themselves regularly and Syrians usually choose one corner or spot as a toilet. For example in my Hamster cage i have a litter tray in his chosen pee spot, and he uses it - the rest of the cage stays clean and dry. I empty the potty every 4 or 5 days and replace the Chinchilla bathing sand that I have in it (must be sand not dust).

Some hamsters pee in their wheels, not all. For the first two or three days you normally leave a hamster alone to settle into the cage and find their way about, decide where they will build their nest and where they will have their toilet, and to avoid stress. After that most people start offering a treat through the bars and talking to the hamster a bit to help them get used to your voice. Then move on to offering a treat on the palm of your hand and see if they will take it. Further taming advice you can find elsewhere on the forum

For the first two weeks in the cage it's best not to do any cleaning at all - maybe spot clean the pee corner once or twice in that period - ie take out a handful of wet substrate and replace it with a handful of new and mix it in a bit so it still smells familiar.

The deeper the substrate, the less you need to replace when you come to need to do a cage clean, so you can just replace the top part and keep the bottom part and add new. A warm damp cloth is fine for cleaning the cage before you put the substrate back. Scented things or strong smelling things can really affect hamsters who have a strong sense of smell. You only really need to disinfect if there has been illness or disease. Some people do like to use a petsafe disinfectant, but best to give it a good air afterwards so the smell can wear off. I've only used 50/50 white vinegar and water if there has been an issue - eg mites or something (don't worry, that's not common). It kills some germs but not all.

Also when doing a cage clean if you try not to clean everything it once then some things still smell familiar to the hamster. I do the substrate one week, the wheel another week, and toys another week. In between you can just give the wheel the occasional wipe inside, rather than a serious clean, if your hammy does pee in it.

Yes you can make toys Depending on what type of wood it is. Most hardwoods like Beech and Birch are ok, kiln dried pine is ok for toys. Toilet rolls and cardboard are good too.

Some people have made shelves out of Ikea knuff magazine racks and dowels. Elmer's school glue is supposed to be pet-safe. Watch the hole in the knuff racks though as a Syrian could get their head stuck - it needs blocking off.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ha...eWCyoQ_AUIBigB

I like Erin's Hamster 10 toilet roll toys video too (especially the hammock!)

Avoid things like chains, string, fabric or anything like fluffy bedding as these are risky for being chewed or getting feet caught in and broken legs etc.

Untreated sisal string is ok for tying things up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuPeyD6w-CI

It's always difficult to know how old a hamster is And pet shops don't always know either. Someone else might be better to tell you what to look for - Nancy is good on that!
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Old 08-26-2016, 06:14 AM   #9
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Wheels - you have a good choice of wheels in the US:

27cm Senior Wodent Wheel 11"
Carolina Storm bucket wheel 10.5"
Silent Runner from Exotic Nutrition 12" (that's Runner not Spinner - different wheel).

I can highly recommend the 12" Silent runner - it is really silent and spins really well and will fit any size of hamster It has a safe, sturdy, solid metal stand as well. The Carolin storm wheels are also popular and are height adjustable, but I think they aren't cheap and if your hamster grew very large it might not be big enough.

Silent Runner 12 inch - Silent Runner Wheel 12 inch (REGULAR)

The Carolina Storm Wheel - * * * * * * * * Carolina Storm Hedgehogs

Wodent Wheel 11 inch - Wodent Wheels
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:27 AM   #10
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What about Aspen chips? Would those work?
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