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08-12-2015, 05:57 PM
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Newborn Pup
Join Date: Aug 2015
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Re: Solitary? Stressed?
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Originally Posted by Shannonmcn
When you see any post about hamsters on the Internet (outside rodent forums maybe) there will be at least one story of hamsters fighting and killing eachother in the comments, guaranteed.
And just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't, people don't apply that logic in other areas of their life. Like just because you don't wear a seatbelt and haven't been killed in a car crash yet doesn't mean you should continue to never wear your seatbelt when presented with facts on how dangerous it is. And really that link above from cookie tiger would be worth reading along with other bits and pieces about body language. People don't know hamster body language, most people don't even understand dog body language and dogs have been companion animals for thousands of years, their body language is incredibly expressive and designed for us to understand. You still see so many people get bitten or dogs hurt because they don't understand a dog is frightened or scared and think they know best, poor little hams don't stand a chance.
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Agreed I get this response alot as you would naturally think that brother or sister hamsters would get along together and be cute but any Google search would seriously warn you otherwise! When I actually tried to google to find people who advocated it I couldn't! I get this response with wire/mesh wheels, oh my hamsters legs hasn't ripped of yet but if it does happen I'll change its wheel, totally crazy!
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08-12-2015, 05:58 PM
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#12
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Newborn Pup
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 13
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Re: Solitary? Stressed?
Also unrelated but as I am new why don't you get notifications when someone has replied on your thread?
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08-13-2015, 12:14 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Ireland
Posts: 2,765
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Re: Solitary? Stressed?
There is a notifications setting in your CP. Tick receive email
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08-13-2015, 01:12 AM
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PM Fluffy for custom title
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Netherlands
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Re: Solitary? Stressed?
I seen Syrian hamsters in one of my local pet shops that are still together, I'd say their well over eight weeks of age but they still sleep together. I always get overly concerned that at their size they are still in the same cage, perhaps I can only hope they get separated soon.
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08-13-2015, 01:31 AM
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PM Fluffy for custom title
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Central Scotland
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Re: Solitary? Stressed?
It`s the same old story really. Some people still live in the dark ages when it comes to small animal care and welfare and that won`t change. Stubborn owners with swollen heads won`t listen to reason no matter how well you place the argument. They know they are wrong but won`t admit their failings until one hamster is either dead or badly injured. Syrian babies/youngsters who stay together and `get on` are probably kept in a small cage/tank with little to do which is possibly why they don`t fight over anything. Look in many pet shops and you will see this. Syrians in a pile with a drinking bottle, a food dish and a bendy bridge. Some may still be under eight weeks of age, some older. But they are usually split up once they reach an age where they can`t be sold as `baby hamsters` anymore.
Dwarf hamsters are no different. Many are sold in pairs, trios or groups and 99% of the time, they fight and end up separated. Keeping hamsters together (unless in a proper breeding programme) in captivity is unnatural. Female hamsters in the wild will mate and then chase a male out, or the chosen male will help with the offspring. They dig deep burrows and are territorial. if you think about it, keeping them in pairs/groups in a cage with nowhere to run is inevitably going to cause upset and trouble if they do decide to fall out. Anyone keeping hamsters together needs to be fully aware of this. x
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08-13-2015, 10:44 PM
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Newborn Pup
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 13
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Re: Solitary? Stressed?
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Originally Posted by racinghamster
It`s the same old story really. Some people still live in the dark ages when it comes to small animal care and welfare and that won`t change. Stubborn owners with swollen heads won`t listen to reason no matter how well you place the argument. They know they are wrong but won`t admit their failings until one hamster is either dead or badly injured. Syrian babies/youngsters who stay together and `get on` are probably kept in a small cage/tank with little to do which is possibly why they don`t fight over anything. Look in many pet shops and you will see this. Syrians in a pile with a drinking bottle, a food dish and a bendy bridge. Some may still be under eight weeks of age, some older. But they are usually split up once they reach an age where they can`t be sold as `baby hamsters` anymore.
Dwarf hamsters are no different. Many are sold in pairs, trios or groups and 99% of the time, they fight and end up separated. Keeping hamsters together (unless in a proper breeding programme) in captivity is unnatural. Female hamsters in the wild will mate and then chase a male out, or the chosen male will help with the offspring. They dig deep burrows and are territorial. if you think about it, keeping them in pairs/groups in a cage with nowhere to run is inevitably going to cause upset and trouble if they do decide to fall out. Anyone keeping hamsters together needs to be fully aware of this. x
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Oh really do you think that is a view shared by most or is this your personal opinion. I have a roborovski, I would liked to have gotten two so they could interact. Unfortunately she was already on her own in the shop so it wouldn't have been wise. How do you feel about robos together I have heard they are the easiest of the dwarfs to have in even numbers?
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