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Old 08-10-2017, 12:35 PM   #11
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Default Re: Help with giant breed puppy food?

Or how about this one? Has good reviews from dog owners with dogs with funny tummys.

Royal Canin

https://fetch.co.uk/royal-canin-cani...iABEgK1y_D_BwE
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Old 08-10-2017, 01:09 PM   #12
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Or how about this one? Has good reviews from dog owners with dogs with funny tummys.

Royal Canin

https://fetch.co.uk/royal-canin-cani...iABEgK1y_D_BwE
Definitely not.That's not a good choice for any dog,considering the poor quality It would be an example of yet another unsuitable food based on the ingredients,which include wheat and vague ingredients("animal" proteins and "animal" fats along with "antioxidants" which considering Royal Canin isn't above using unsafe ones is a very bad thing,even if it would be bad regardless of brand).In general Royal Canin is a brand to avoid anyways

Do keep in mind that foods can claim to be hypoallergenic but be the complete opposite!In general the main things to avoid would be wheat and corn(and relatives as mentioned previously,or products of such)so a grain free diet isn't completely necessary for every dog.While it's good in theory,there's no reason why foods with more digestible grains can't be used.Or,you could have a rotational diet(the best type of diet tbh for numerous reasons)with grain free and more dog friendly grain foods!

Personally looking at the Lily's Kitchen dry food it doesn't look as good as their wet food(seems like raw meats rather than meals which for previous reasons mentioned isn't great,plus they seem to be against any form of meat meal which is a bit silly as if from a named source it can be quite good).Wet food is still very important for dogs though,so the brand is not without use!

One really interesting brand from Zooplus would be Purizon.They seem to have pretty good dry food from what I've seen,although a very interesting part of this particular brand is that unlike many foods they use dried meats.They all seem to meet the calcium to phosphorus requirements too!

I forgot to mention another tip!Dogs transitioning from low quality diets often have upset stomachs as a result of the poor diet,hence why sometimes a food might seem too rich but in reality it could've just been an unstable digestive system that once again needs some support and time to adjust to appropriate foods.

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Old 08-11-2017, 01:25 PM   #13
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Default Re: Help with giant breed puppy food?

I'm really not keen on an all-dry diet for dogs, tough on kidneys in the long run

My dog was diagnosed with kidney disease in February and the first question the internal medicine specialist asked me was "do you feed dry food?". At the time, and for years previous, he got a raw meal for dinner with a small amount of grain free dry for breakfast. He's now off dry all together and gets a mixture of raw, cooked and wet.

If feeding dry food, I would alway feed it soaked or with some wet food & water to make a nice gravy and bump up the moisture.

I would agree with avoiding Royal Canin like the plague.

Lily's Kitchen wet is great but I don't rate their dry - it's made with fresh meat, so the final meat content in the finished product (once moisture has been removed) is low.

To be honest, I don't really much buy into some foods being "too rich". Dogs are designed to eat high meat, grain is more likely to cause a stomach upset. And watch feeding quantities, overfeeding is such a huge cause of upset stomachs. Good quality diets are nutrient dense - your dog will be getting what they need from a portion that may look small, and it can be tempting to feed a little extra, which will just run through them.

Alfie has always had a bit of a sensitive belly so give slippery elm daily and always have tinned pumpkin in the cupboard, it's great for firming them up!
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Old 08-13-2017, 02:07 PM   #14
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Barley, we have actually been soaking his food with some water with his boiled turkey and rice he had a tiny bit of yoghurt mixed in with it cold, of course as it is supposed to be good for him. Natural, with no sugars, sweeteners etc. We suspect the *ahem* upset stomach could have been down to the fact that he had had a jumbone, these seem to often cause diarrhoea with young dogs... what is slippery elm?
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Old 08-13-2017, 02:46 PM   #15
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I wouldn't feed yoghurt or any dairy product too often(plain all natural goat's milk can be a good idea though as well!)as dogs don't usually digest dairy well,as with most animals.A high quality probiotic would be just as good if not even better,depending on how many different probiotic strains there are in whichever you choose

The Jumbone due to poor ingredients could definitely be the problem,as treats are just as important as food to be careful with.I wouldn't feed them at all,regardless of age,but you could look towards bully sticks(sounds gross at first,but as long as they're just bully sticks with no additives and sourced from safe countries and not irradiated they're completely fine),high quality antlers,raw bones(never cooked as cooked bones cannot be digested properly),and Whimzees(not Antos which seem to contain wheat,again just be really careful with any product's ingredients)which aren't too long lasting for dogs but are still fun.

Slippery elm is an example of various natural remedies,one I unfortunately don't have too much experience with myself.You do have to be very cautious with some natural remedies though and make sure nothing is potentially harmful,as a lot of things commonly suggested can be unsafe when it comes to natural and homeopathic remedies(including pennyroyal often suggested for flea issues,which is not okay because it's quite toxic to dogs).Slippery elm is one of the safe ones though,definitely worth looking into Also as a mini tip be sure no products you buy have alcohol(including denatured,ethanol,isopropyl substances,etc)as this is quite irritating and best avoided altogether.It goes as a tip for grooming products and supplements though,and potentially other things.
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Old 08-14-2017, 08:01 AM   #16
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He's had a few whimzees and liked them
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