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Old 02-09-2020, 07:23 AM   #21
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I grow everything outside, I live on a hill in Oklahoma "Where the wind comes sweeping down the plains" isn't just a line in a song. Our garden is in steps on a retaining wall so even though I'm planting in the ground it may as well be containers.

I have tied silver curling ribbon to my tomato cages but they may not have been large enough to reflect enough light. My cucs start to shrivel before I think they are large enough. I haven't tried the past two years... Is there something I can plant this year to prep soil for them next year?

I have done onion in pots, was afraid to put them in the ground because they reseed so easily, in our wind you wind up with a lawn full of onion. I will try garlic or lemon grass. I have also put marigold and/or radish in the garden to keep beetles away from squash, radish worked better but not well. I've given up on those as well.
Ah... tornado alley? Some people use an old cd on string.
As for prepping soil, I use no chemicals in my garden so the only thing I add is good ol' horse manure to the veggie patch. I use a good compost, personal favourite is in a 60L purple bag from B&Q. As you're in the US so I can't help compost wise unless you have a compost bin. But if you can get your hands on horse manure it'll help. It'll smell so I suggest putting it on over winter. Don't need to dig it in, let the rain and worms do that for you. Just dig it over to loosen the soil before you plant

Now you can use shavings or paper pellets (with hamster poop still attached) as well to give the ground a boost.

Cucumbers can burn and shrivel so easily. Have you got a patch of ground where there's shade? So the plants don't have full sun? I had my triffids in a green house and some in the ground. Some did burn but those where left in full fun. Also, have you tried not watering by the stem? Only water a inch or so away from the stem so no water touches the plant? Cucs can be a bit fussy but once you have the knack for it you're good to go.

When I start doing my cucs I'll add photos to show you how I do it. May help, might not. I would like to say I'm pretty good with them. Last year I planted 25 seeds ( they were old, didn't think they'd all come as they weren't stored well) 21 came. 5 in the 6x4ft greenhouse and they filled the whole thing, they'd meet you at the door. On one plant I had 50 coming at one time. So don't do what I did unless you really, really like cucs lol.

I'll probably start planting late April, depends on the frost's though. If there's anything else people struggle to grow and they want to grow it, just say and I'll try and help you out. Nothing beats home grown fruits and veggies. It takes some work, but worth it.

Onions can grow in pots. I did them in pots last year and probably will this year too. My uncle does them in the ground and they come up huge! Biggest I've got is the size of a small apple lol. Can't be good at everything. You could try planting carrots near onions as the smell of onion repels carrot fly and the smell of carrot repels the onion fly.

Going back to the cucumbers...do you plant Tomato near them? If so, they hate each other and can cause each other to die off
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Old 02-09-2020, 07:47 AM   #22
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Quick mention: the used paper based substrate is ideal to get a fire going in my patio chimnea.

Can i use used substrate (Kaytee and Carefresh) with poops attached as fertilizer or to put around plants to keep the weeds down?

Don't do what i did. I grew onions one year and chopped the leaves so they were all the same length and looked tidy. According to the aforementioned wise gardener i killed the onions.
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Old 02-09-2020, 08:24 AM   #23
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Quick mention: the used paper based substrate is ideal to get a fire going in my patio chimnea.

Can i use used substrate (Kaytee and Carefresh) with poops attached as fertilizer or to put around plants to keep the weeds down?

Don't do what i did. I grew onions one year and chopped the leaves so they were all the same length and looked tidy. According to the aforementioned wise gardener i killed the onions.
I assume so. When I was reading up composting last night it mentioned putting in rodent bedding with poo attached into the compost. It'll breakdown quite quick mind, as it's in small pieces. As long as it's natural like kaytee is then I don't see why not. Maybe not when we've got a storm thought. I put straw/hay on the patch as I used it for nesting materials for the hamsters, I kept sneezing and thought rather than it going to waste, put it to mulch down...yeh the winds taken and it's everywhere...sorry neighbors.

Oh dear Ria it's not going very well for you is it. Bless you. Totally something I would have done though! When they get to a certain height the tops bend anyway and nearly at the same height too. Apparently it shows when they're ready but I leave them a lot longer.
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Old 02-09-2020, 09:18 AM   #24
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Oh nice. If you want any tips/advice just say! Got 3 generations worth of knowledge as well as my own trial and errors.
Thanks Engel my mum is a great gardener, I tell her what I want to do and her and my niece do it for me. I supervise (I'm not lazy, I have a chronic illness ) but I love my garden. I can do little bits on some good days.
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Old 02-09-2020, 10:41 AM   #25
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Thanks Engel my mum is a great gardener, I tell her what I want to do and her and my niece do it for me. I supervise (I'm not lazy, I have a chronic illness ) but I love my garden. I can do little bits on some good days.
Chief supervisor not a bad title. Chronic illness I get it. You can only do what you can do. The garden helps me get out of the house as I too have a chronic illness which sucks. On bad days I literally sit out side and do very little, hell sometimes I can't get out of bed. My mum and nieces help me too. So I get it don't worry.

I have 3 rescue dogs and they seem very sensitive to it, it's like they know when it's a bad day. Animals and gardening are the only things I can do now. Used to be really good at horse riding. Dressage and jumping, running through the forest like a looney. Can't do it now.

I hope this year your good days outweigh the bad
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Old 02-09-2020, 01:12 PM   #26
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I've always grown pansies and violas in autumn/winter. We live in an apartment now so there is only a balcony but we've got some flower pots there. Would love to grow some veggies for the hamsters but everything seems to get scorched!
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Old 02-09-2020, 01:19 PM   #27
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Used hamster bedding should be fine. I know people use rabbit litter/bedding for that although to be fair rabbits do put out a significantly larger volume of poop than any hamster could even dream of!

I've considered loofah as a dog chew. The only products I've seen for dogs involving loofah however have an unknown origin and are dyed - both things being big concerns. There's also the uncertainty of whether or not it could potentially wear down canine teeth, since it obviously has great usage for pets who have constantly growing teeth and therefore benefit from things that wear their teeth down like loofah. However with dogs, wearing teeth down is ultimately very detrimental to their overall dental health and general health too - this is one of the reasons why tennis balls must never be used as a dog toy(or really a toy for any pet with all the risks considered).
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As my used hamster bedding goes into the brown bin for the council to compost I don't see why you can't use it in your garden Ria.

Vierville, I love your pics.

Engel, now I think about it we might both have the same illness, I know a few people have mentioned it on here. Working on recovering so lets hope this year is a good one for both of us.
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Old 02-09-2020, 01:43 PM   #29
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I've always grown pansies and violas in autumn/winter. We live in an apartment now so there is only a balcony but we've got some flower pots there. Would love to grow some veggies for the hamsters but everything seems to get scorched!
Lovely pansies. You could grow basil for your hamsters. Basil likes it warm.
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I've always grown pansies and violas in autumn/winter. We live in an apartment now so there is only a balcony but we've got some flower pots there. Would love to grow some veggies for the hamsters but everything seems to get scorched!
That's a shame. Strawberries are good in pots and mine have full sun and are still alive so maybe a possibility? Herbs are nice and easy too. Currently have a small herb garden in my bedroom window from off cuts when I bought some from the store. Also done the same with celery lol.

The pansies look lovely by the way
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