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Old 09-05-2017, 06:49 AM   #11
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Default Re: The ethicality of scientific research with hamsters as subjects

So I've not read the other comments, but to me when it comes to science almost everything done on the animals is completely unethical anyways. Now, I'm a science freak, my crush is studying to become a Biologist and eventually get a career as a geneticist and I love it when he finds me peer reviewed stuff to do with hamsters, I personally don't have the GCSE scores to do anything science-wise for my life but I would love to.
But, as you do in science, thinking of it without bias, almost everything done on these lab animals is unethical no matter how you think of it.

For example, in one study, they gave Syrian Hamsters wine to test if drinking red wine, dealcoholised red wine and/or red grape juice actually decrease the risk of heart disease.

Keeping them in below standard conditions to test things such as stress factors, lowering their life spans and purposely breeding them with certain conditions so as to study them as human models.

To pet owners and indeed some scientists keeping them in a tiny cage with no toys at all is very much cruel and unethical, however if done with a grant, licensing and for research it's something that you just have to put to the back of your mind to look at from an unbiased view point, no use doing research if you look at it with Bias.
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Old 09-05-2017, 07:19 AM   #12
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Default Re: The ethicality of scientific research with hamsters as subjects

Sorry I haven't read through all the posts either but I think by assuming that you can judge anything but putting a large number of hamsters in exactly the same conditions is erroneous as we all know how different individual hamsters are so providing one set of toys etc in one cage size may be perfect for some hams while being either boring or stressful for others so can't really create a baseline for your research.
The other thing I wonder about is how you intend to measure stress in hamsters in a scientific way rather than a subjective way that won't in itself cause stress & invalidate any results?

I'm all for research & finding ways to educate people on hamsters needs but I can't see how this kind of experiment would prove anything scientifically or really have any benefit.
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Old 09-05-2017, 01:49 PM   #13
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There's the potential for noting behaviors generally related to stress rather than potentially stressful procedures to check stress levels,but then some may argue that this is not genuine scientific proof of stress in hamsters if they're not in the hamster community and know of such behaviors!

However,one could also simply do this on a personal basis with their own hamsters rather than trying to have an entire study.The awareness of stress related behaviors and true signs of inappropriate cages would be excellent to be more widespread,but unfortunately they're not always that well known
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