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Old 04-23-2018, 01:15 PM   #1
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Hi my name is Jules and I 'my new to forums in general but I am trying they with times.
I am looking for ways of taking a fluffy bundle names Yoda. I have only had him a few days he is possibly a little older at around 3 or 4 months old for taking a new hamster home from a pet shop. Unfortunately he is a biter! He gave me a nasty nip this morning and now I feel very nervous of him doing it again. So far all I wheen doing is offering him a treat. This morning he came on to my hand of his own accord and promptly bit me pretty hard. Ant advice would be gratefully received.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:29 AM   #2
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Hi Jules and welcome to HC

It's still early days, a few days isn't long. Rather than trying to get him to go on your hand already, maybe takes things a little slower with him. You could try just talking to him and offering him a treat from your fingertips. Give him a chance to settle in to his new home and get used to your voice. It's understandable to be nervous when you've been bitten but taking things slowly will help your confidence as well as his.

You could also try the tissue trick, stick some toilet paper up your sleeve for a while then put it in his cage so that he can become familiar with your smell.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:56 AM   #3
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Welcome to HC Jules,
As Boris said, give it some time. Most hamsters are still nervous after a few days so it isn't surprising there are a few nips here and there.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:57 AM   #4
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Hello there. He isn't a biter I am sure xxx It's just too soon to start taming. He needs to feel settled and then start very slowly. They will easily feel threatened by a hand in the cage after just moving in and not having chance to feel at home in their cage (and it's especially important you don't start moving, changing or cleaning things in the cage for the first two weeks.

It was probably a combination of 1) Are you something to eat and 2) Go away and leave me alone unless you're something to eat. They can often think you are food anyway if you haven't washed your hands first, or even if you use flowery soap or honey soap or something!

It does make you nervous but you need to just remember he's a bit scared too. I got scared when we got our last Syrian who ran at my hand when I put it into the cage as it to attack me. He actually had cage agression because his cage was too small. When he started to have other problems I upgraded him.

As BorisP says you could do the tissue trick. Usually it's recommended that for the first 2 or 3 days you just leave them alone (hard when you want to cuddle them) and during this time they will scent mark their territory/cage so they can find their way around and decide where to nest. After that start by just talking to him through the cage gently so he gets to know your voice and presence, and then move on to offering a treat through the bars. Take it slowly.

Some hamsters just hate a hand in the cage. The next stage is usually said to be offering a treat on the palm of your hand but I've always found this a setback if it means putting your hand in the cage. They are usually completely different once out of the cage as they aren't being territorial, so I used to let ours out in the bathtub for a taming session (dry with plug in) or a playpen area. They will often just hop in a hamster ball if you put it in the cage and you can pop the lid on and transport them that way by carrying the ball to the safe area, setting it down and taking the lid off. If the ball won't fit or go over a cage door, then I also used to use a tube - a rat sized one or old pringles tube is good. They should just walk into the tube if you put it near them and then put your hand over either end to lift them out of the tube. If you're nervous about doing this wear gloves and it's probably best to have a hamster ball there as well, then put one end of the tube into the ball and let him walk into the ball then put the lid on.

Our last Syrian only ever bit me once - quite hard but didn't draw blood and thats's when I poked my finger in his house and woke him up - silly me! Plus we had just left him somewhere for 10 days when on holiday so he was probably a bit miffed.

They will sometimes give a gentle nip to tell you you are hurting them or holding them awkwardly or something but not often.

Bathtub taming is a good idea - until your hamster is hand tame and has learned to trust you then he won't be happy being touched or picked up and they can ping (leap two feet in the air) and land and hurt themselves.

We used to put our Syrian in the bathtub and let him run around with a cardboard tube and a mug on its side as toys and occasionally try and stroke him on the back with one finger - he would jerk his head round as if to bite and see it off so we would leave him that session. You can use an old toothbrush to stroke them on the back if you feel nervous here. After doing this a few times (we only stroked him once or twice each time) he stopped jerking his head round and accepted being stroked on the back by a finger. Then progress began quite quickly. you can then move on to just cupping a hand under them as they're walking around in the bathtub and lift your hand a fraction but don't try and hold them - just let them walk off and maybe do that a couple of times. From that stage we were able to pick ours up and hold him and he was as tame and cuddly as anything - when he was in the mood for it!

They do have different personalities as well and some will never like being held for long - they like to be off and exploring - some will go to sleep on you - and some of that depends what time of the evening is - they get more active later on and more dopey around 8pm to 9pm I've found.

Some hamsters are lazy, some are maverick. You two will soon get to know each other. Right now Yoda is trying to decide if you're friend or foe! So don't mess with his cage and tell him he's clever and adorable

Also is his cage big enough? If it's very small it can make them have cage aggression and stress.
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Old 04-24-2018, 01:30 PM   #5
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Hi again and thank you all so much for all your tips and advice I will definitely be putting them into practice and will keep you all posted on my progress with Yoda. Today he seems a lot happier and not as jumpy as he was. He has a big love in going on with his wheel at the moment he is sprawled out in the bottom having a bit of a rest! No biting today and he has taken some treats from the bars!

P. S. He has the alaska cage and the large trice wheel
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Old 04-24-2018, 01:47 PM   #6
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I'm sure he'll be happy in the Alaska. Does he have enough substrate? That keeps them happy having plenty of substrate to push around into hills and bury things in 4" or more is good. The more you have, the less you need to do clean outs. Especially if you use a litter tray - I can highly recommend that! If you put it in the corner he's chosen to pee (it's often a corner of the cage) with Chinchilla bathing sand in he will probably use it. Then you just need to empty the litter tray every 5 days or so and the rest of the cage stays clean. Occasionally they may slip up and pee in the nest when young but tend to learn not to if it means their nest needs replacing! And the rest of the cage should stay clean really.

I like this one - it's a good size for a Syrian - they tend to pee (very neatly) in the very back corner where it's higher and ours sit in the front to have a wash.

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Old 04-24-2018, 03:17 PM   #7
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Hi and welcome HC! Congrats on giving your precious Yoda his loving, forever home with you. As the other member have given you many wonderful and detailed suggestions concerning taming, there is no need in reiterating them. I would just like to add that if you have to place your hand in the cage during the taming process, hammies tend to be less fearful if you approach them via a front or side entrance of the cage if this is a possibility rather than from above as predators do in the wild. Also, if you do happen to get bitten or nibbled, always try your very best to remain as still as possible preventing any jerky movements that can appear frightening to a hammy. If after quite a while the hammy still is biting/nibbling when you give a treat, then it is best to tame without offering the treat from your hand at that time and wait to leave one directly after the taming session is completed so the hammy doesn't associate you as food but as a provider of food. Definitely keep talking calmly and softly to Yoda even if you can't see him because it will definitely help him become more familiar with you and realize that you are no threat. Taming is a process and you always want to let the hammy determine when it is best to proceed to the next step. If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask. Good luck and have fun bonding with your new little one. I look forward to seeing you around on the forum and getting to know your little friend Yoda.
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Old 04-25-2018, 03:42 AM   #8
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Hi again,

Another couple of questions I would value opinions on. The substrate I am using is the colour fresh in blue. I got it from my local pets corner store but they only stock the small size they can order the 50 litre size in for me but can only get it in natural not in blue and I haven't be able to find the blue in larger size sizes. My concern is that when it comes cage cleaning side in the future a change in colour would unsettle Yoda. I am waitingondering too if i have put too many toys in his cage not that he has shown any interest in them if I get the litter tray which I will sort out there Isn't going to be a lot of room.
This morning he took some food from the palm of my hand and had a good sniff of my fingers and no teeth were used!!
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Old 04-25-2018, 09:58 AM   #9
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Hi again,

Another couple of questions I would value opinions on. The substrate I am using is the colour fresh in blue. I got it from my local pets corner store but they only stock the small size they can order the 50 litre size in for me but can only get it in natural not in blue and I haven't be able to find the blue in larger size sizes. My concern is that when it comes cage cleaning side in the future a change in colour would unsettle Yoda. I am waitingondering too if i have put too many toys in his cage not that he has shown any interest in them if I get the litter tray which I will sort out there Isn't going to be a lot of room.
This morning he took some food from the palm of my hand and had a good sniff of my fingers and no teeth were used!!
I don't think colors for beddings matters for Hamsters as they don't really see that well. As for toys, it varies on which toys they use the most, sometimes you often see toys not being used. The litter tray isn't always a guaranteed peeing spot but having one would always be better than none if your hamster pees a lot that is.
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