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Old 08-26-2005, 12:17 PM   #1
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hi. I am Gill and my family had a lovely little boy hamster last Saturday. Interestingly... on Sunday morning our boy had a cage full of tiny babies! We are delighted, but terrified as we haven't even got to know "mummy" yet! we have never had to raise babies before but so far mother and babies are all doing well, we don't know how many there are yet. We are afraid to look.

Thanks to Morag from babyboos who told me about this site. It is great to see there is somewhere to go for advice and support
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:41 PM   #2
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Hello Gill and welcome to the HC website and forum, we are glad to have you here.



Good luck with the babies, and don’t worry, mom will raise them well, just make sure she has enough protein and leave her be for the first while so she can relax and not feel threatened, otherwise neglect or cannibalism can be the result.



Here is a link on HC about breeding, and development of the pups so you know what to expect.



http://www.hamstercentral.com/breedinghamsters.htm



don't be afriad to ask questions.

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Old 08-31-2005, 11:19 AM   #3
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Have had the same experience. Bought my little Sammy 2 weeks ago and last night got presented with some babies in the nest. Don't know how many yet as she covers them up but I think I have seen 3. I am excited now but a little scared too......I don't want to end up with hamster cages all over the house. I just wanted a companion not a whole colony .......hehehehehe
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:36 PM   #4
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welcome to you both, I am so envious, I so want a litter myself, though I am not envious of the surprise you got. Oddly one of my hamsters was sold as a boy, but was female, but I didn't get any suprises, other than finding the inability to breed them :P



If you have any questions, concerns anything at all I know this lot will be willing to help, they have been fantastic (putting up with me shows this :P) and have a great volume of information between them and here on the site.



so congratulations and welcome, I hope it all goes smoothly for you.
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Old 09-01-2005, 08:18 AM   #5
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Hello Gill and Roverina, glad you found us though I wish it were not with such news, but panic over for now - that will come back when you need to wean them and have to put males and females in seperate cages ... but for now you can just concentrate on finding new homes for them I will not lie, the toughest thing is finding homes for the pups. You can never start this process too soon; in about four weeks you are going to need homes for all these little ones. Syrian hamsters can easily have 12 to 20+ pups.



Try placing an advert in the Classified Section here at Hamster Central, speak to petstores, especially the ones where you obtained your hamsters in the first place, and local rescue centres.



As for the cage place it somewhere relatively dark and quiet, a spare bedroom, dining room etc. And only approach it to check the water bottle and add food daily. Hopefully you will have had time to set up a routine for this but if not do it now, choose a time of day and stick to it, week and weekend. Fresh food in the form of organic baby foods (minus onion as far as possible), wheatgerm, oatmeal, brocolli, apple slices, tofu chunks, plain chicken breast and cooked egg yolk/scrambled egg.



There are a few things you should not do that you might normally do. First, don’t clean the cage The old bedding will have to last for about 18 to 21 days when the hamster pups will be weaned. Don’t worry about the smell; your hamsters won’t mind it and healthwise will be fine. You may add a bit more nesting material if it’s cold. Add it away from the nursing area; let mother hamster find it and use it.



If an accident occurs and the water bottle for example breaks and soaks the cage, carefully prepare a box to temporarily place mum and nest in. Quickly clean the cage out and set it back up. Return the nest to the cage first, and then mum, sprinkling a few nuts and seeds around in the litter layer to keep her occupied while the pups settle back in. When moving the nest try to take as much as possible and use a plastic ladle or put polythene bags over your hands like gloves.



On rare occasions a pup might become separated from the rest of the pack This can happen when mum leaves the nest and the pup is still attached to her nipple, eventually falling off, or the pup may have started exploring and lost its way Usually the pup will squeak loud enough that the mother will hear and retrieve the lost pup. If the pup appears to be left for more than 30 minutes, you can take the decision to help, however DO NOT pick the pup up with your hand. Instead, get a spoon and rub the bowl of it in the cage litter. Then scoop the pup up and move it closer to the nest. Sometimes it’s best to drop the pup on top of the nest if it’s completely covered. Sometimes pups are deliberately ejected by the mother or it will wander back out again If this happens, repeat this process over again. Eventually, the pup will either be accepted or die There may be a problem with that pup that only the mother hamster can detect



The pups will grow quickly, and at about two or three days you’ll see pigment appear on the backs of the pups. You may also be able to see what colout their eyes wil be - dark pigment means dark/black eyes, no pigment red /pink eyes. At five days you’ll see tiny hairs called guard hairs. After 5 days, pups will have started to chew on solid foods and groom themselves. You may add millet spray for the mother hamster to gather and take to the nest or sprinkle in a LITTLE wheatgerm or oatmeal. Pups will eat this right up. Don't be alarmed if you see babies eating poops as this is perfectly normal. Pups need the caecal bacteria found in the droppings to help them digest hard cellulose food.



At eight to twelve days fur grows in thicker and some may even open their eyes. Early exploration away from the nest will be made slowly and tentatively while the pups eyes are closed. Most pups should open their eyes at about twelve to fourteen days.



Though they will be eating a lot of solid foods now, they are also still nursing about every four hours and will continue until about eighteen days of age. This is when I feel hamsters are at their cutest. Once their eyes open it’s ok to start picking them up for short periods of time; in fact, it’s almost impossible to resist. Just remember that first impressions can set the way they will respond to humans for a very long time. Respect their space; I find it’s best to let them crawl into a toilet roll tube and then from there into my hand. Don’t keep them away from the nest long or they may panic and jump from your hand, although I bet they will be jumping everywhere anyway Always hold them close to your chest and to the ground just in case. Over a double bed/duvet is best. Start sexing them at this point too.



At twenty-one days the pups are weaned and may be separated from their mother. It is alright to allow pups to remain with mum into their 4th week (twenty-eight days) though. I often remove one sex first depending on how many males or females there are. If only one of a particular sex I leave this with mum until they reach twenty-eight days old. A big exception to this is if the mother grows tired of sharing her space and starts chasing her young away. At this point separate the pups from mum immediately.

At 4 weeks you should separate all the pups by sex. This may not be that easy, but it is important as you’ve already discovered



Syrians are solitary and will need to be housed alone from six to eight weeks old. Young Syrians will eventually fight to the death of you leave them together too long. Hopefully by this point though you will have found all of them a new home, though I bet you want to keep one or two Whatever the case, remember that until they are all adopted out these little living creatures are going depend on you for food water and enrichment activity. It’s a big responsibility, but it’s also very rewarding.
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:39 AM   #6
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Thank you for your great advice. I will follow it all apart from moving the cage. I am unable to do this as I live in a small cottage and there is nowhere else for it to go. Sammy seems happy enough with all that goes on around and has shown no distress at all. Lets face it worrying about babies was the last thing I had on my mind when I bought her!!! I think there are only a couple of babies as thats all I can see so far. I know I will keep one ................wont be able to give em all away however many there are.



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Old 09-02-2005, 01:01 PM   #7
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I am sure she will be fine if you aren't able to move her, just make sure she is out off the way. I hope she does have a small litter - easier on a young mum and to find them good homes - I imagine you will not be able to give them all away One at least always catches your eye
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Old 09-03-2005, 11:59 PM   #8
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Thank you for all the advice. there are nine babies and they are beginning to explore now. The pet shop say they will take them back but I have also found a few homes independently, and my son is determined to keep one of them himself.



I am worried now about dividing them successfully when the time comes and really not looking forward to giving them away. They are so cute. It has been a lovely experience so far, although I don't want to repeat it straight away.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:07 AM   #9
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You will be fine I am sure Gill, just check them all every day and any you are unsure of put in with the boys, that way you reduce your potential pregnant females. Bear in mind males mature sexually later than females too so you normally have a few extra days to help you decide on the uncertain ones.

It is the hardest thing to do, letting them go to their new homes, and deciding which to keep. Good luck and I hope you manage to get some pictures of the brood before they go.
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Old 09-11-2005, 05:10 PM   #10
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We are doing really well now and the 10 babies (not 9 as I thought) are doing really well. some are more advanced than others. They are 21 days old now and panic is setting in about separating them. They are gorgeous and playing together (although I am wondering if one of them looks a bit rough). Are there any foolproof ways of knowing which is which, and how will mum react when I take them away?
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