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Old 10-22-2019, 03:37 AM   #11
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I have never had a hamster bar chew in this cage. Newt did briefly when he didn't have a wheel, as a baby. Once he had his wheel he stopped. It is more common in cages that are too small. It's not impossible to bar chew with 7mm bars but harder. However there are some hamsters who are just chewers. Even the Eco Habitat has wood corner parts to chew! But they can be covered over with metal strips. If you're happy with a tank style and don't have space for another detolf then there is the Eco Habitat (on Zooplus), the Marrakesch (on Zooplus - limited height for a wheel but manageable), and the Maxi Duna Multy. I love the maxi duna multy but ultimately felt it was like a Barney without the additional bar height! It is a lovely tank style cage though.
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Old 10-22-2019, 05:33 AM   #12
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Thank you for all your advice and information, I've got plenty of time to consider the options before I make a decision, it's not something I want to rush into
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Old 10-22-2019, 09:36 AM   #13
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I know it's difficult if you buy a cage and end up with a bar chewer. I think most people on here have found that bar chewing in a 100cm cage doesn't happen. There has been the odd case of a chewer who has chewed through a plastic base though! I think bar chewing is basically cage size and stress. Stress caused by too much cleaning out or unsuitable set up - ie not enough substrate, nowhere to hide, not enough enrichment, not being able to access things etc.

There are some hamsters where it has become a habit though, but if you get a baby/young hamster that is unlikely.

As regards depth of bedding - varying views. I know the Germans say 30cm deep bedding for burrowing! Some hamsters will dig and burrow and some won't. My experience is they don't tend to bother digging burrows when they have a good house and are happy with 6" of substrate. Robos nearly always dig tunnels and burrows. Our last Syrian was a digger but then used to hide away too much so I actually reduced his substrate and gave him a big house. Our previous syrian ignored substrate however deep it was and didn't dig at all - except once when he only had a small house and then he dug a burrow - which got stinky and messy - and he didn't look too happy. Gave him a big house, he moved in and didn't bother to dig much again

Their most important things are somewhere dark to build a nice big cosy nest and the ability to bury hoards under their nest. Aside from that it is space, variety, places to go, things to do. And food!

I have a labyrinth house in my cages and the hamsters always move in! Because it's dark inside as has rooms and light doesn't go round corners. Before that I just had a guinea pig house with a bendy bridge tunnel over the door - same effect.
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Old 10-22-2019, 12:20 PM   #14
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All my hamsters, regardless of species, burrow under their (floorless) houses and make cosy burrows and food stashes.
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