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Old 12-20-2017, 10:51 AM   #1
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Exclamation my Syrian won't go up and down her tubes

so i used to have a small cage for my Syrian hamster. I realized it was too small. after doing some research on youtube etc, so I bought a bigger cage and attached it to the first one using plastic Ferplast tubes. I planned for the hamster to have her house and digging space (aka a lot of extra bedding) upstairs and have most of her toys and wheel downstairs. the thing is, she only went up and down a couple of times and now never goes upstairs. I think she either doesn't understand that the tubes allow her to navigate up and down, or I think that she's scared of them. has anyone ever experienced this or has a solution of some sort?
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Old 12-21-2017, 12:00 PM   #2
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Default Re: my Syrian won't go up and down her tubes

She may be getting too big to fit in the tubes. Or she just may find climbing them hard. If the are vertical, you could try adjusting them so they go more diagonal. It would make them easier to climb.
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Old 12-21-2017, 11:06 PM   #3
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Default Re: my Syrian won't go up and down her tubes

Having the nest in the upper cage may not suit her the best as they do tend to like to burrow down in the base of the cage to make a nest so she may just not like things too much that way. As CMB says it an be difficult for them to get up tubes sometimes especially if the angle is too steep or the tubes a bit narrow.
Do you have any photos of your set up?
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Old 12-22-2017, 01:59 AM   #4
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Default Re: my Syrian won't go up and down her tubes

Hamsters prefer most of their habit type things at floor level - eg house, wheel and toilet. Particularly the house which is best if open underneath and on top of a good depth of substrate - so they can do normal behaviours like burying hoards under their nest. It's probably why she is staying at the bottom as if a house isn't big enough to build a big cosy nest, or if they can't fit hoards under the next, they sometimes just make an open nest in the substrate under a shelf. Plus they like to be near their wheel!

Ideally they need one larger ground level floorspace although a shelf or level is good for putting a food bowl on and extra toys. Tubes and tunnels work best as floor toys really. As CMB said also, hamster tubes aren't always big enough. Our Syrian grew quite large and actually got stuck in some tubes. Even if they're not really large they can still get stuck if their pouches are full. Rat sized tubes make good toys for Syrians.

Ideally one larger cage is better than two smaller ones joined together as that doesn't give the continuous floor area so they can make their own habitat in it and use all the space with normal habits. It's better to have something lower and wider than something very tall with lots of levels as then there can be fall risks and they do like the floorspace and substrate which is a kind of terrain for them where they can forage for bits of food (if you scatter some), dig etc and they like moving substrate around as well to keep themselves cosy or just for fun.

Not sure how big your second cage is - but one larger cage with open floor space would be better. Something like the Alaska, Barney or Alexander from Zooplus are good, or the Hamster Heaven - but the Hamster heaven works best without all the tubes and plastic shelves, so you can fit a large enough wheel in (28cm diameter is a good sized wheel for a syrian).

The Alaska cage and Hamster Heaven have nice big front opening doors too, so it's easy to interact with your hammy.

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The Barney comes with a really good house and shelf so you only need a wheel and some toys.

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Same with the Alexander

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I have the Barney cage for our Syrian. But an Alaska is a good basic cage for a Syrian although it needs a house.

You have to be a bit careful with toys too - most toys sold for hamsters are too small for Syrians and only suitable for small dwarf hamsters - anything with a door or opening needs to be about 6cm in diameter (5cm absolute minimum). For a large Syrian at least 6cm diameter. How much does your hammy weigh? Gives an indication of size.

It's difficult if you've just bought a second cage - but if it's very recent you could ask for a refund, depending where you got it from. A number of members have done this when being sold a cage that wasn't suitable or big enough.
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:29 AM   #5
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Default Re: my Syrian won't go up and down her tubes

thanks for the advice! I'll definitely try putting the tubes more diagonally (I'm pretty sure she has enough space in them and isn't too small but ill see when I try to fix the problem) and putting all her essentials in the bottom cage. I can't afford to buy a new cage right now and I think the bottom (big) cage gives her enough space for running around etc.

thanks again!
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Old 12-23-2017, 03:05 PM   #6
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That sounds good. Put a good layer of substrate on the bottom too - 4 inches minimum - 6 inches is better.
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