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Old 12-14-2016, 08:18 AM   #11
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Default Re: New set up and cage clean

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Ok - I just read Blacky's thread about the larvae, so I can understand why you need to do the cage clean. If it hadn't been for that I was going to say - make the changes and just spot clean. It's a tricky one - the change probably will upset him - and might set taming back a bit - but he'll settle again and taming will just take a bit longer.

If you are still worried about the moth larvae aspect then it will need a full clean. I cleaned the inside of my cage with 50/50 white vinegar and water and also poured boiling water over it too (not sure if that's adviseable with a glass tank!) Make sure you clean well in the crevices/corners of the tank where the sealant is - a toothbrush might help for those bits.

So yes on this occasion you would need all new substrate and washing the plastic items. The moth business is a total pain. I think personally I would leave the set up as it is for now and do the big clean. And patiently wait to change the set up!

Part of the reason I say that is you want to be sure you're on top of the moth larvae before adding anything new, as well as the change aspect for Blacky. Hopefully you will be on top of it with the hoard and substrate removed, but if you find you get any more larvae, you may need to sterilise or replace the wood items. Fingers crossed that isn't necessary.

If the current main concern is about where he is nesting you could make a small change after the cage clean - like put the house in a different place, or trying a different house - a shoebox cardboard house eg. Easily replaceable!

So, do you think that I would need to change all the substrate? In approx two months I only have found one little larvae on the lid of the tank. I think that it was a larvae because it was smashed, but It look like a larvae (long with two black/brown dots) and I don't know what could it be if it wasn't that. It's been a week and I haven't found more, so maybe it was an isolated incident I would prefer to avoid to remove all the substrate because I know that he would be very nervous, but of course If it's necessary I will do it.

I don't care where he nests. Actually I prefer his open nest because that way it is easy to control him, and I don't need to remove anything to check his hoard and that kind of things. As long as he doesn't turn things upside down (like the first day in the new tank that he turned down the potty and the wheel) he can do whatever he pleases, because after all it's his place hehehe
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Old 12-14-2016, 01:53 PM   #12
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Default Re: New set up and cage clean

Sorry! It sounds like I misunderstood. I thought you said there was some webby thing in the bottom corner of the cage! Anyway forget all the above if you've got the moth issue solved. If it's just a case of whether to change things when you do a clean then as others have said, it's probably ok to add some new things, especially if you're only changing half the substrate.
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