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Old 08-04-2016, 01:49 PM   #1
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hey guys
I got some questions about Syrians
is the Alaska cage all fine for a Syrian?
and what toys do you recommend?
anything I should know about Syrians?
what is the difference between a Syrian and a winter white? other than the size of cause
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Old 08-04-2016, 03:05 PM   #2
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Hi Emma, sorry to hear about Poro.
Regarding Syrians, as you said, the main difference between them and dwarves is size - which mean everything in the cage needs to be much bigger. Including the wheel and house. Most toys, houses etc sold for hamsters are really only suitable for dwarf hamsters so you'll probably need to get much bigger things than you already have. I quite like toys which are sold as suitable for Guinea pigs such a tubes. But you can make a house by turning a shoe box upside down (without the lid) and cutting a hole for a door so you don't always have to spend a lot of money to get what you need. My dwarves (not WW) have rarely used a loo corner and mainly pee in the wheel, (I don't know what Poro did?) but my Syrian Cleo uses a jar of sand in the corner to pee in so from personal experience I think Syrians are easier to toilet train.
And depending on what you fed Poro you may need to buy a different food as dwarf mixes are different from more general mixes.

I don't have an Alaska so I can't tell you what it's like from personal experience but plenty of people on the forum have them including for housing Syrians and they seem a good cage.
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Old 08-04-2016, 03:27 PM   #3
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Hi Emma, sorry to hear about Poro.
Regarding Syrians, as you said, the main difference between them and dwarves is size - which mean everything in the cage needs to be much bigger. Including the wheel and house. Most toys, houses etc sold for hamsters are really only suitable for dwarf hamsters so you'll probably need to get much bigger things than you already have. I quite like toys which are sold as suitable for Guinea pigs such a tubes. But you can make a house by turning a shoe box upside down (without the lid) and cutting a hole for a door so you don't always have to spend a lot of money to get what you need. My dwarves (not WW) have rarely used a loo corner and mainly pee in the wheel, (I don't know what Poro did?) but my Syrian Cleo uses a jar of sand in the corner to pee in so from personal experience I think Syrians are easier to toilet train.
And depending on what you fed Poro you may need to buy a different food as dwarf mixes are different from more general mixes.

I don't have an Alaska so I can't tell you what it's like from personal experience but plenty of people on the forum have them including for housing Syrians and they seem a good cage.
thanks for the info! I know I need to get different food also because Syrians don't like The small corn that dwarf hamsters love right? is it needed to buy a new food bowl and drinking bottle? I know about the thing with Syrian toys that they mostly only fit dwarf hamsters and I know I need to get a new wheel... I think I know what kind of size they are since I had 141 Guinea pigs all at once many years ago poro mainly peed in the wheel and pooped in the house before I threw the house out because scared she would get hurt and I never got time to buy a new one but she has her coconut house! thinking about making my own house ty for the answers
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Old 08-04-2016, 04:21 PM   #4
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You won't need a new drinking bottle, as long as it works it's perfectly fine to use and, obviously, if you get a new bowl is totally your choice.
I've used the Alaska for Syrians in the past and it's absolutely fine for them, the little house that attaches to the shelf will probably be too small but the cage itself is fine
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Old 08-04-2016, 06:26 PM   #5
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I've got the Alaska myself for my Syrian Milo and I personally find it a bit on the small size for him and am going to upgrade him to a larger DIY cage (either 200x60 or 150x50cm). If you don't want a cage that big (which I can imagine :P) the Barney and Alexander cages are great choices, both at approximately 100x50 which make a good cage for any species of hamster.

Again, the Alaska probably will be fine for a Syrian, but I recommend going for an Alexander or a Barney as the extra space you get from it likely is so so nice for decorating the cage and adding in more toys.

Also, I can confirm that upside-down shoeboxes (or in my case ice cream boxes. :P) work wonders as houses. I gave one to Milo and he dug his way down to create tunnels and rooms and it was great, man. Highly recommend that as an alternative for a house you have to buy.

I'd toss out any wooden stuff you might have if you don't know the cause of death of your previous ham (I'm sorry for your loss. :c), but if it wasn't contagious, it could be fine to sanitize it in boiling water but I'm not too sure on that, to be honest. Drinking bottle and food dish won't need replacing. :P

Other than that I think everything was covered. Good luck and have fun!
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:06 PM   #6
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Emma,
Pip lives very happily in her Alaska home, there is plenty of room for her and she is a good sized (200g) Syrian.
Regards a wheel she has a 28cm Trixie wheel which she loves courtesy of Amazon.
I acquired her Alaska from Zooplus at a very very good price. It also fits in with our circumstances/furniture perfectly.
Finally sorry for the loss of your Poro.
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Old 08-04-2016, 11:30 PM   #7
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I've got the Alaska myself for my Syrian Milo and I personally find it a bit on the small size for him and am going to upgrade him to a larger DIY cage (either 200x60 or 150x50cm). If you don't want a cage that big (which I can imagine :P) the Barney and Alexander cages are great choices, both at approximately 100x50 which make a good cage for any species of hamster.

Again, the Alaska probably will be fine for a Syrian, but I recommend going for an Alexander or a Barney as the extra space you get from it likely is so so nice for decorating the cage and adding in more toys.

Also, I can confirm that upside-down shoeboxes (or in my case ice cream boxes. :P) work wonders as houses. I gave one to Milo and he dug his way down to create tunnels and rooms and it was great, man. Highly recommend that as an alternative for a house you have to buy.

I'd toss out any wooden stuff you might have if you don't know the cause of death of your previous ham (I'm sorry for your loss. :c), but if it wasn't contagious, it could be fine to sanitize it in boiling water but I'm not too sure on that, to be honest. Drinking bottle and food dish won't need replacing. :P

Other than that I think everything was covered. Good luck and have fun!
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You won't need a new drinking bottle, as long as it works it's perfectly fine to use and, obviously, if you get a new bowl is totally your choice.
I've used the Alaska for Syrians in the past and it's absolutely fine for them, the little house that attaches to the shelf will probably be too small but the cage itself is fine
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Emma,
Pip lives very happily in her Alaska home, there is plenty of room for her and she is a good sized (200g) Syrian.
Regards a wheel she has a 28cm Trixie wheel which she loves courtesy of Amazon.
I acquired her Alaska from Zooplus at a very very good price. It also fits in with our circumstances/furniture perfectly.
Finally sorry for the loss of your Poro.
thanks guys! I got the Alaska cage for poro so would just want to know if it's suitable for a Syrian. I choose to put poro to sleep because she was old. she was loosing balance and sight too I think. beginning to bite me for no reason = why I think her sight might be worse now. I have plans on my own diy house that I will show when done! so pretty sure poro wasn't sick tho. BUT I have a shelf out of wood I used for her but idk if I can use it again or I need to buy a new? and the Alaska cage fit perfectly in my room. my sister have the barney cage for browney I think. and from what I heard, it's noisy.. any suggestions for Syrian play toys and maybe a play pen too? Can't close mine and how much do they need in the play pen everyday? and when?
will probably upgrade to a barney or Alexander cage or a diy cage but I'm gonna need to find money and space for it but well... gotta find out how much I'm gonna use of money for basic have the house and shelf from the Alaska still tho but I don't really like it... poro didn't either I think and it ain't that easy to clean when need to take the shelf out all the time. but ty guys!
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Old 08-04-2016, 11:36 PM   #8
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The Alaska is fine temporarily and also as a travel cage and play cage and such!However,eventually upgrading to a square meter DIY would be really good in the future Have you considered doing 4 Lack tables from Ikea?That would be a very cheap DIY,even if it wouldn't look as good as a lot of the more expensive ones,however it would be a square meter cage for an excellent price with minimal DIY work.
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Old 08-05-2016, 12:44 AM   #9
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The Alaska is fine temporarily and also as a travel cage and play cage and such!However,eventually upgrading to a square meter DIY would be really good in the future Have you considered doing 4 Lack tables from Ikea?That would be a very cheap DIY,even if it wouldn't look as good as a lot of the more expensive ones,however it would be a square meter cage for an excellent price with minimal DIY work.
what is a square meter cage? I'm thinking about deltof diy I think it's called
but idk how big it is and I can't really put anything on it except top if I make it with bars the problem is I don't really have that much money and I'm gonna need it for toys a wheel and maybe new cage. we got alot of Popsicles to make houses of... we just bought it... only need glue now never heard of lack table? just attached a picture of a idea I could build tho... sry really messy because I did it fast... but something like that I really want
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Old 08-05-2016, 12:47 AM   #10
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Start with the cage you already have (Alaska) and see how the hamster behaves. If you think your hamster needs a bigger cage then upgrade to a bigger cage. Some hamsters prefer/need a smaller cage than others.

Having a smaller cage to start with can make taming easier.
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