1 more quick question

shannonfbc · 05-13-2016, 05:02 PM

Thank you so much for the advice guys the first of those awful cages arrived and is already on its way back (thank you amazon as well for being great with returns) ordering a detolf cabinet and a book shelf from ikea instead for the two winter whites since its a huge setup for them and can be divided easily if the decide they can no longer live together... my question is im now ordering toys and accessories to outfit the cage with... will the need two of everything or can the share everything? I want to make sure I do this right so I dont ruin the chances of them co-habitating. (these are babies from the same litter currently living with mom at the breeders im not introducing hamsters or anything crazy)... Also any suggestion on the best things to buy them are more than welcome as im sure with your experience you know what to avoid.

AmityvilleHams · 05-13-2016, 05:08 PM

Two of everything is necessary

No tubes,make sure everything has more entrances than hamsters in terms of hideouts etc.Don't stress too much over ruining the chances of them living together,they either will or won't and even if you do everything well there's still a chance that it won't work out so just do your best!

If you see anything you're interested in buying just put the link here and we'll check it out as well for you and make sure it'll work for a pair and all that

shannonfbc · 05-13-2016, 06:05 PM

shannonfbc · 05-13-2016, 06:09 PM

I will add more stuff once Ive seen it all in the cage as I go along this puts me well over $500 in start up with the shelf, cabinet lid this stuff and shipping not including the hammy's themselves of course. So I think I will need to curb it at that if possible.... whoever said hamsters were cheap was crazy

shannonfbc · 05-13-2016, 06:13 PM

I will of course still be buying food and treats and chinchilla sand im just not at that stage yet Im just taking my time getting the enclosure right first.. before the food and then of course the best part the getting of the baby hamsters...

AmityvilleHams · 05-13-2016, 06:16 PM

If you keep the bottle inside the cage especially in a plastic holder,chances are it will get chewed up!You could hang it with industrial strength velcro very easily on the side of the cage where only the spout is reachable,since you plan on getting a Detolf.The food bowls should be fine,but it would be cheaper to use a ceramic dish as a sand bath and litter tray instead

A ceramic cereal bowl or something that is big enough for your hamsters to roll around in would work really nicely,and cost about half the price plus it can't be chewed up.

I would definitely suggest avoiding softwood shavings,and since Carefresh Shavings Plus contains shavings it isn't safe.You could use something like Kaytee Clean and Cozy or regular Carefresh though!Flying saucers can cause side arching,so that is an unnecessary cost as well.The BioBubble wheels seem okay for small hamsters,not sure if yours would potentially get over 3 inches in length though so an 8 inch wheel might be better for example a Wodent Wheel or Silent Runner would be great if you can find those

If not,a Comfort Wheel or Silent Spinner would be good as long as they work properly.

Kiwi sticks should be fine,same with the teeter totter.If you set up the puzzle playground with 4 entrances it would be okay,or you could go with a chewable toy instead

The corn husk toy looks great,maybe get two just in case though.The hideout has a level of sorts so it isn't very good for two hamsters

For one it would be perfect,but not for a pair unfortunately.The tree looks like it would be very difficult to climb as well,so I wouldn't buy it.

Posted at the same time,very awkward and nice though

Yes,hamsters are quite expensive!They're worth it though I think

shannonfbc · 05-13-2016, 06:18 PM

thank you by the way I really appreciate the help this stuff can be a little overwhelming its way more complicated than I expected the day in the petstore when my son begged me to get a hamster and I said I would "think about it"

AmityvilleHams · 05-13-2016, 06:27 PM

You're welcome!Hamsters are definitely more complicated than a lot of people think.It's good to find things out though.You just learn and grow over time with these lovely creatures!

shannonfbc · 05-13-2016, 06:45 PM

swapped out climbing toy for this one
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01...XV74J66Q&psc=1

added an extra puzzle toy so I can make 1 with 4 entrances

removed the water bottles to get regular ones I will afix with velcro

removed litter trays will use ceramic bowl

removed the spinner and little wheel couldnt find an 8 inch though it was 6.5 or 12 which seems way to big so I went with the 6.5 silent spinner and I will have to change it out if the hamisters out grow it
changed the bedding to Kaytee Clean and Cozy so glad I asked... Im just trying to find
and swapped the hideouts to two of these https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01...XV74J66Q&psc=1
is there anything else I should get for them so they have enough enrichment or will that do for now?

AmityvilleHams · 05-13-2016, 06:58 PM

I wouldn't get the toy,as it has cotton rope which can fray and cause health problems

Currently looking through Amazon.ca for some ideas,but that will take a little while

I'll definitely add some links if I see any though!