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02-21-2018, 07:36 AM
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Newborn Pup
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 20
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Re: What wood to use?
So i have specifically Ballerina rose branches and I've seen in other places that it says its safe? But I'm not sure now?
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02-21-2018, 07:41 AM
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#12
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Hamster Antics
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 23,533
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Re: What wood to use?
Assume these are thornless? Any wood for a garden eg, I think would need sterilising before use, by baking in the oven. I really don't know if rose branches are safe. I would err on the side of caution as there are plenty of other options.
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02-21-2018, 01:56 PM
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#13
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Newborn Pup
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 20
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Re: What wood to use?
Yeah I've gone though the lengthy process of cutting them up, remove mg the thorns (which went into my fingers half the time) and then putting them in the oven to dry.
We just have so much i felt like it would be a waste not to use it xD
But if its unsafe i wont
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04-19-2018, 08:19 PM
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#14
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Hamster Pup
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 72
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Re: What wood to use?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Animalover
WOODS THAT ARE SAFE
Cottonwood
Apple
Willow (BUT stick with Goat, Weeping or Pussy Willow)
Pear
Mulberry
Crab-apple
Hazelnut
Dogwoods
Chinese Dogwood
Horse Apple
Kiwi
Pine (kiln dried & untreated with preservatives etc)
Bamboo
Grape
Manzanita
Hawthorn (although safe thorns are best removed before use)
Magnolia
Pecan
Birch- several varieties are safe, White, grey, broadleaf, silver and common birch wood are regarded as safe to use.
But others can be quite dangerous, so if in doubt it’s best left alone. The Leaves and bark contain salicylates and substances with haemolytic properties (destroy red blood cells). Salicylate concentrations are however very low
Quince
Loquat
Medlar
Rowanberry
Larch
Chinese Gooseberry
Longan
Lychee
Magnolia
Oak (Bark is safe and is used in remedies and as a treat for various small mammals)
Alderberry (red and white)
Ribbonwood
Poplar
Aspen
Ash (be careful of the seeds as they contain small quantities of hydrogen cyanide)
Elm
Sycamore
Cottonwood
Arbutus
Sickle bush (sekelbos)
Limetree - (Tiliaceae) other names- Linden and Basswood, is regarded as a safe wood to use.
Woods that are generally regarded as unsafe
Apricot
Alder Buckworth wood (bird cherry)- fresh bark is a purgative so best avoided
Cashew
Clematis
Cedar (including litter cedar shavings)
Cherry
All Citrus woods such as orange, grapefruit, lemon or lime (and stone)
Elderberry bushes
Chestnut
Eucalyptus
Spruce
Fir
Aralia Spinosa ( Devil's walking stick or Hercules’ club)
Juniper
FRESH CUT Pine (Mainly USA,see note in safe woods)
Walnut
Rosewood
Black locust
Maple
Blackwood
Almond
Mahogany
Plum
Cherry
Rambutan
Boxwood
Box Elder
Chinese snake tree (very poisonous to humans)
Cypress
Ebony
Greenheart
Ginko
Hemlock
Hydrangea
Iroko
Hornbeam
Katon
Laurel
Maple
Myrtle
Obeche
Ramin
Rhodedendron
Satinwood
Sandlewood
Sneezewood
Teak
Wenge
Yew
Pulasan
Poison Oak
Poison Ivy
Tallow
All redwoods
OTHER TOXIC WOODS ARE MAN-MADE BOARD’S such as Chipboard, Plywood, Block board, Fibreboard (MDF), Hardboard, etc, as the glues used to bind the boards are toxic.
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How about acacia? There are a bunch of acacia trees in my backyard and I’m looking to make some chew sticks for my hams.
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04-22-2018, 08:47 AM
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#15
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Adult Hamster
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 319
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Re: What wood to use?
Acacia is safe for hamsters but make sure the wood you are using out of your backyard is clean and untreated
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07-19-2020, 02:33 PM
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#16
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Newborn Pup
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 8
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Re: What wood to use?
Hi! Does anyone know why citrus fruits are considered unsafe? I've tried looking for information but everything I find makes me think that people made the connection of "citrus fruits are bad, therefore, citrus woods are also bad"
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07-19-2020, 07:21 PM
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#17
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PM Fluffy for custom title
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,545
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Re: What wood to use?
Citrus fruits are very acidic and can lead to digestive upset in hamsters. They aren't unsafe due to being toxic in any way which is a very common misconception. However, I would still avoid citrus wood to be safe.
Citric acid as a preservative doesn't really carry the same issues, and lemon juice as a baby food ingredient can also be somewhat controversial however in reasonable tiny amounts(used at preservative levels so extremely low percentages) it wouldn't necessarily be a problem. While I would be skeptical of baby foods including lemon juice as a preservative that don't list a percentage, the amounts used for that purpose are as I've said incredibly low - especially considering just how little baby food hamsters would actually eat in any given serving!
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07-19-2020, 09:24 PM
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#18
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Newborn Pup
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 8
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Re: What wood to use?
Thanks! I meant "why are citrus woods unsafe", not fruits * facepalm*. But I'm glad you still answered my question, I'll avoid using it
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07-20-2020, 10:26 AM
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#19
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Newborn Pup
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 15
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Re: What wood to use?
I'm really keen to find suitable wood, too. After an endless search for Aspen, I've given up. I've always made everything out of untreated pine before but the more I read, the more I feel I should be using a different wood. I'll see if I can source something from the long list above, but sourcing wood is SO hard in the UK :'(
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07-20-2020, 10:39 AM
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#20
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PM Fluffy for custom title
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 4,545
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Re: What wood to use?
Kiln dried pine is actually fairly safe for toys and such. Because there's a lower surface area with a solid shelf, chew toys, etc compared to wood shavings any hamsters involved end up having far less phenol exposure - thus solid kiln dried pine being relatively safe.
Spruce and fir actually seem to be safe so that list is a bit questionable even if useful. While there's a decent variety of safe woods it really does depend on the usage in terms of which species might work best, especially when comparing species like pine and balsa as balsa makes for an excellent chew but is a much more delicate wood and that's just one of many examples!
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