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Old 03-01-2019, 04:54 AM   #1
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Default Baytril by injection?

Just wondered if anyone knows it it's possible to have a baytril injection instead of orally. It may cost more but I'd rather pay more than try and get it into Nugget orally for two weeks - it will stress him a lot as he is hard to find and pick up at the best of times. It's not impossible but I don't want to spoil his quality of life too much.
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Old 03-01-2019, 05:30 AM   #2
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Default Re: Baytril by injection?

I know it’s available as an injection for larger animals (rabbits, cats, dogs, livestock) so I’m sure its a possibility if you talk to your vets.

Have you tried putting the baytril on one of his favourite foods first? I’ve had a lot of success putting inside mealworms or on oats for my Russians.
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Old 03-01-2019, 06:07 AM   #3
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I wouldn't do an injection on such a small animal. They tend to get injection burn where the meds stay under the skin and it tends to break down the skin. It can be very nasty.
I'd opt for the food too even if he didn't get the full dose.
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Old 03-01-2019, 06:29 AM   #4
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Thank you - that's clear then. Vet was insistent not to give the Baytril in food as robos don't eat much at a time and he wouldn't get the full dose. She said it could make things worse if he didn't get the full dose and cause superbugs. And they may avoid the food anyway as it tastes horrible apparently. I'm going to give the Metacam in food but am having a think about the pros and cons of giving the Baytril.
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Old 03-01-2019, 08:36 AM   #5
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I’ve given both Baytril and Metacam to hamsters several times in the past. A fair few will take Metacam off of a syringe as it tastes sweet but I’ve usually had to disguise Baytril in food as it’s fairly bitter. I tend to find that hiding it in a wet food is helpful and usually something like baby cauliflower cheese or a good quality wet cat/dog food will get them to take it. To make sure that they get the dose though I’ll only give them a small helping that I know they’ll finish.

I think that some vets assume that you’ll be adding the Baytril to their dry mix which of course they don’t eat much of but hidden in something delicious is often an encouragement.
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My vets have only given baytril by injection to my hamsters in the case of an emergency. Like when Sherbet had her accident and Toffee when she was diagnosed with wet tail. As they wanted the meds in their system quicker to start having an effect. I didn’t have any issues with injection burns although is a risk with injections.

I also would be worried if done on a regular - as if done incorrectly can be really painful and increase the chances of injection burns.

My exotics vets have recommended with baytril to dilute it in a sweet solution - such a very diluted honey solution. As my vets told me that the baytril is an alkali so can burn the mouth slightly. This seems to do the trick as it makes it taste similar to Metacam which my hamsters seem to love! So take the baytril with just as ease - don’t want to let the syringe go!

Mixing it with food hasn’t seemed to work with my lot will take one bite and turn their nose up! Although natural 100% Peanut butter has been successful way to the few who liked peanut butter that is!
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Old 03-01-2019, 11:06 AM   #7
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Thank you everyone, some really helpful advice there. I guess some depends on the Hamster as well - Charlie was super savvy and picky and wouldn't touch anything that had been tampered with. The vet did acknowledge towards the end of the session, that it might be difficult and I could maybe try the baytril in jelly as well. Her initial thought was food wouldn't work (I had suggested babyfood) as the taste would put them off.

Honey sounds a good idea - and cauliflower cheese baby food. But the honey I could do in the syringe. Except he won't take food from me - too suspicious if there's a hand in the cage. I guess I could try the Metacam in the syringe first to see if he will take the syringe and lick it or run and hide from it!

Nugget takes the teeniest little bites out of his tiny cube of cucumber or a teeny bite or two of blueberry - he doesn't eat the whole thing. Although sometimes next day he'll have another go at the bit of veg - but that would be next day's dose then.

Only tried Metacam in the Syringe once before with Charlie and he slightly investigated the end of the syringe, but when I tried to gently squirt the stuff in he wouldn't go near it afterwards. I found it a bit hard to squirt it gently.
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My hams love their medicine in wet dog food - I've had temper tantrums when a course of Baytril has ended! I put it in just a pea-sized amount in a cupcake case in an evening and it's gone by morning. It works especially well for a less human-trusting small furry. I don't like the scruff and squirt in a reluctant wriggler in case they inhale it.
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If you go for the cat food option, I recommend using something like the chicken Applaws or Encore. They’re made of 100% chicken breast in broth or jelly and don’t contain all the added artificial ingredients and vague “meat derivatives” that most cat and dog foods contain. Once opened they last a few days in the fridge and you can feed some to Newt as well
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Default Re: Baytril by injection?

Thank you Vectis and alpa Lots of ideas there - thanks. Vectis is there a particular dog food you've used? And did even a robo eat all of it!
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