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Old 11-17-2015, 01:26 AM   #1
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Default Puzzaling and sad problem with next doors hamsters.

I have been of for a while but I think it would be silly not to ask you guys about this as next doors girl is really worried.


They have two children and they gave them a hamster each about a year ago as pets.
The older daughter put the two Syrians in together and what a surprise turns out he is male x.x
So about a week or two she was happy that she had baby hamsters.

Now it looks like she is going to loose mum and the babies and her dad frankly does not care if his daughters pet is sick to him its a £10 hamster if it dies he will just buy her a new one no point taking it to a vet when its £25 just to see the vet x.x


And yes I agree they should not really have hamsters if they wont even pay for there vet bills ugh

But I might as well relay the story to you incase there was some glimmer of hope.

She lost three of the two week ish old pups yesterday woke up to one with no head and she took out three that looked sick there bellys where a bit bigger than normal?
One died in my hand. (She new I had hamsters so I woke up at what 6am? with a crying child at my door x.x I really wish I had not gone to bet at 1)
The other died later that night next to Princess (the hamster x.x)
Oddly the hamster pup that looked sickest is now looking better and two of the five born are alive.

Before you yell at me I know its most likely a defective litter why I am here is that the mom hamster some of her teats are swollen rather large one under her leg mainly....

Is this because the pups are not drinking from that teat or dread to think it maybe mastitis?

I'm so tempted to smuggle these hamsters of to the vets myself!

So im stuck in a rather odd position :/
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Old 11-17-2015, 01:31 AM   #2
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Default Re: Puzzaling and sad problem with next doors hamsters.

Sorry to ask this as is might sound a daft question to you - is the male in with the mother and pups? If so you need to remove him immediately, you should never keep two Syrians together whatever the circumstance. The male Syrian may be killing/eating the pups, or the mother may be killing/eating the pups out of stress. Otherwise I'm not a hamster expert and have no idea what could be going on with the mother and pups, good on you for coming onto here and checking what was going on!
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Old 11-17-2015, 01:34 AM   #3
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Sorry to ask this as is might sound a daft question to you - is the male in with the mother and pups? If so you need to remove him immediately, you should never keep two Syrians together whatever the circumstance. The male Syrian may be killing/eating the pups, or the mother may be killing/eating the pups out of stress. Otherwise I'm not a hamster expert and have no idea what could be going on with the mother and pups, good on you for coming onto here and checking what was going on!
No the male is not kept in her cage and as I pointed out the pups died without the mothers intervention I think the headless one she found had died and the mother had tried to take back the protein.
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Old 11-19-2015, 06:15 AM   #4
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Well it's done now. At least the adults are separated. It does sound like Mum could have mastitis. You are in a difficult position. All you can do is advise that Mum may need antibiotics and needs to see a vet for them. If they say no to that you could offer to take on the hamsters. If they say no to that there isn't much you can do. You could call the RSPCA but at the moment a case of possible mastitis may not be enough to get them involved.
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Old 11-19-2015, 07:08 AM   #5
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Default Re: Puzzaling and sad problem with next doors hamsters.

How about offering to take the hamsters in on a temporary basis to see if their health improves just by making sure they are getting proper care and attention? The child could still come in and see them but perhaps in a more controlled environment? It`s a shame they see their child`s pet as an object rather than a living, breathing creature.

The older daughter was negligent in her behaviour, not only by placing two Syrian hamsters in the same cage, but by allowing them to breed and now suffer, so given the parents are not allowing medical care for what `seems` to be the case, this is neglect and would not look good in an animal welfare case. They obviously don`t care about that.

Anyway, the best you can do is offer help and advice unless you feel these hamsters are in immediate danger or harm/death. Then the RSPCA should be informed. I know that should be a last resort, but they really need to wake up. x
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Old 11-19-2015, 08:52 AM   #6
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That's really awful! I agree with Serendipity about what's done is done.
It really upsets me when I read about parents not wanting to pay vet bills.
RH - has given great advice here and I would do that.
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Old 11-19-2015, 09:15 AM   #7
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Default Re: Puzzaling and sad problem with next doors hamsters.

I most definitely think the headless pup was culled by it's mother, especially with children as the owners I can imagine she feels quite stressed in that environment. The others sound to have passed from bloat, I'm guessing they don't feed fresh mild veggies like cucumber to keep them hydrated? They will need antibiotics, I've been told that Aureomycin is recommended to give as it's worked for other pups with bloat in the past. Also the headless pup could have been in the nest for a while? which would start to rot and go bad, and if the pups were eating that they would most likely have an internal infection and pass from this.

Mum might not be producing enough milk which pushes the pups to start eating solids which would most likely cause problems especially if they start eating solids too early.

She definitely needs to take all of them to the vet, otherwise nothing can be done for them and they will all most likely pass away.
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