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Old 05-23-2005, 06:45 AM   #11
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Hopefully if they're done well this time they won't need doing again, that's why he needs an anaesthetic so they can really see what they are doing and burr them down accurately so they are even.



He has a gnaw block and plenty of wooden toys and hard biscuits to chew but if the teeth aren't alligned properly they're still going to overgrow - fingers crossed they'll be straighter after today.



*fingers crossed*
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Old 05-23-2005, 10:10 AM   #12
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Best wishes Alfie for a less bothersome set of gnashers in the future.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:10 AM   #13
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Whoo, Alfie is home with nice neat short teeth they took them a little bit shorter than ideal to get them dead even, but it shouldn't be a problem for him.



He did very well with the anaesthetic and was eating as soon as he got the chance! And he behaved very well for everyone apparently, one of the nurses called him a "sweetie"! He has changed a lot from when I bought him home from the rescue.



Fingers crossed they grow evenly from now on. I'm very relieved the anaesthetic went well . He's going to get spoiled tonight when he wakes up.
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:06 PM   #14
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If its not one thing.....



Alfie has now managed to break his other lower incisor! At least I'm pretty sure it's his other one, I'll ring the practice tomorrow and check his notes. I think he must have broken one tooth, they were dead even two days ago and one is now markedly longer than the other, it can't have grown that much in 2 days surely!



It's not affecting him, neither tooth is overgrown just the broken one is shorter, and he's eating fine but now they're probably going to wear unevenly again. Gah!



He obviously just has cr*p teeth! I'd started sprinkling some extra vitamins on his food thinking he might need a boost for his cr*ppy teeth. He won't touch the porridgy baby cereal I got for him because it was high in calcium though
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Old 05-25-2005, 03:03 PM   #15
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Oh Emma how annoying for you and poor Alfie - I do wonder if you will be asked if you want them permanently removed - it is not possible to keep knocking him out to file down his teeth so in the long run this may his best option. If he were more laid back you may have been able to file them concious but maybe it is better to run the risk of shattering and get the vet to show you how to clip them yourself and then you can do this every week if need be to keep them under control. It is a real shame as filing certainly is better
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Old 05-26-2005, 04:25 PM   #16
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I'm not sure what I'll do - see how they grow over the next month or so I wouldn't mind clipping them myself, if they shatter he'd have to go under to have them seen to anyway. I haven't heard/seen any cases of hamsters having incisors removed - I know it's done in gpigs/rabbits, can be done in rats, don't know anyone whos done a hamster!



Silly Alfie he's being a good boy now though, eating his porridge and spending lots of time nibbling away at the hard biscuit bits of his hamster mix, keeping those teeth down. He's been making a menace of himself today by running over all my revision notes and pooing on them! So he's great in himself....see how it goes.
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Old 06-10-2005, 08:53 AM   #17
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Oh, Emma. I'm so sorry!

I can relate a bit - one of my hammies has incredibly prolific teeth, and I have to take him in every 2-3 weeks for a trim. My vet and I started trimming my hammies teeth with clippers, but sure enough one tooth fractured and then broke off altogether leaving a REALLY sore wound that was down to the gum. Now we've switched and used a dental drill - it's tiny, but quick. I'm sure it causes the little critter some stress, as it takes both of us to hold him while he's wriggling, but there's been no problems so far and the trim is quick. I wish it was cheaper (it's about $15 each time) but I've rationalized it's worth it.



I hope you and Alfie find a good solution!



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Keeping hamsters is not cheap But I bet he appreciates being able to eat and drink properly, though I can imagine he struggles a bit on his grinding sessions Great idea especially if you can do this while he is awake. The thought of anaesthetic on a regular basis would really worry me. I have only had to infrequently trim teeth, I would certainly prefer a grinder on a hamster needing regular treatment. Have you tried adding a Chinchilla stone or the like to the enclosure for gnawing on?
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Old 06-11-2005, 05:18 AM   #19
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Fortuately Alfie hasn't cost me very much at all - even the burring under anaesthetic was £3 (perks of being a vet student!). The unbroken tooth did grow up quite quickly unfortunately and we're now managing it by clipping which I'm now happy to do myself. He's lost a bit of weight and doesn't look in great condition (poor fur etc) so he's having vitamin supplement in his food and special attention paid to diet. If he fattens up again and is looking in better shape I might try again with a burr under GA to try to get the teeth opposing again, we'll just have to see how it goes. I have no idea of his age being a rescue, so he might just be getting older.



I'm really unsure about the idea of using a burr/drill on a conscious rodent! One small slip could cut the lip or worse - although I guess the same argument could be made for clipping, just that you could do more damage with a drill! I guess it depends on the animal (how wriggly they are), the assistant (nurse or owner - how able they are to hold the animal still) and the vet (how confident they are!). I've never seen it done or even heard of it being done before in small rodents. We burr incisors of rabbits, guinea-pigs and chinchillas conscious - but they are easier to restrain and that much bigger. Interesting sarahgj, I shall have to bear it in mind in my future practice! I'll have to remember to discuss it with the exotic vet I'll be working with in a few weeks time.
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