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Old 03-19-2011, 06:14 AM   #11
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Hi guys!
So here are the news from my baby's vet.
We went there last night and unfortunately I didn't receive many good news.

He said that what he has is a type of tick (is that a correct word? I found it on google translator) and that this tick could transmit them a disease called Rickettsia (that causes Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, wich drove me crazy when I googled it), witch is pretty serious.

He said that the treatment is hard and it will take some time to get them rid of the ticks.
He said that the dwarfs probably came with them from the store (I bought them less than a month ago) and they transmitted to the syrian, because their cages are near.

He said that he thinks one of them (Che) is very sick, that he already got the disease and is anemic.

So the treatment will be:

Allax (ivermectina in portuguese and ivermectin in english) - 5 drops on their back(like frontline in dogs) every week for at least 30 days.

Doxy (doxiciclina) to treat the disease, its a very tiny amount, one drop diluted in 0.5 ml of saline. Give a drop of the diluted every 12 hours for 30 days

Roevit: 1 drop every 24 hours. This one is a vitamin supplement because they're loosing weight and anemic, so this should help them be stronger. It contains:


Vitamin A, Vitamin B1, Vitamin B2, Vitamin B6, Vitamin B12, Vitamin C, Vitamin D3, Vitamin E, Niacin, Coline and Calcium pantothenate


I looked up for Johnsons spray as you all recommended but it doesn't exist here and I can't buy on ebay or pet stores because as it's a spray, they can't ship it on airplanes because of the pressurization.

While looking for something similar to Johnson spray or made by the same compounds, I found this two in birds store.

Frontline spray and one called Plumas Kleen.

Frontline you all probably know, but this one I think is less concentraded because it's made especificaly for birds, witch are small animals too. The plumas kleen they say it's a non toxic natural insecticide.

I guess everything should be used carefully because our hammys are tinny and sensitive.

So, have you guys ever used Frontline? I looked up and they said that the amount for hamsters would be 1 or 2 drops in their back.
I probably won't buy this because I'm afraid, as my dog's vet always said that frontline was dangerous and should be used carefully, with my rottweiler and german shepperd, imagine with my babys hamsters? But even considering that, I would like your opinion.

I try to write down all the information I could possibly give to help other ham owners, because I've found nothing about it easily, so I'm writing in my brazilian blog too.

My boyfriend went to a city near and he will buy the medicine there because I can't find it here near me, and I live in brazil's biggest town and I have no car, so in his small town he can find it easily.

Apart from using all this medicine, I should clean their cages as many times as possible and sanitize it with a very strong medicine called butox. So I'll be alternating them with their cages and plastic containers, so that I can help eliminating the bugs and the cage that is cleaned with butox must rest in a ventilated place for 1 or 2 days to evaporate all the medicine.

I guess their going to be really stressed to be changing their home all the time but it's for their good, because If I don't they will die for sure, the vet told me.

So I'd ask you guys to send us good vibes so my babies get fixed fast and become lively and happy again soon.

I'll keep you guys informed about the treatment, so that this post can be read by other people with the same problem and so that they can know what to expect.


Thank you for your help and attention, we're eternally grateful.

xo

Laura, Dito, Che and Fidel.

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Old 03-19-2011, 07:32 AM   #12
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Here is a tip:

I found out that if I wrap the ham with a cloth (prefere a white and disposable one) or napkin for about 10 minutes, a lot of ticks will go to the cloth and you'll be able to see them, give them to vet the run lab tests, identify them, and of course, help getting rid of the huge amount of ticks on your ham.

Wrap him or her out with the cloth/napkin, wrap him all, just let the head out so he can breath and not panic. Hold him tight so he won't move and escape from the cloth. After 5-10 minutes take him out of the cloth and see that you got A LOT of ticks out.

I always get sad because by that you see how crowded of bug the baby is, but keep in mind that when you do that, you're eliminating a big part of it, and helping curing your ham.

Alone it won't solve the problem but it helps.

And it's useful for you to identify the bug or show the vet. It took me a long time at the vet hunting the tick down for him to get and send to a lab to run tests and identify the especies.

So that's a useful tip. Sad, but it's useful.

Now that I did that and that the bugs are getting bigger, by eating my babies blood , I can see them better. They surely look like the picture Lil Miss posted. But they're very small, and now they're becoming darker, I think they'll be black soon.


Keep you guys on track!

xo

Laura, Dito, Che And Fidel

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Old 03-19-2011, 08:17 AM   #13
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Hello Laurinha,
I hope your hamsters get well soon. They seem to be in very good hands.
Just a small question if there's a vet reading this, is doxycyclin safe for hamsters? It's a tetracyclin and I read that it causes diarrhea to hamsters but then maybe the website I read it in was wrong.
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:06 AM   #14
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Awwww, your poor hams I really hope you manage to get rid of the ticks and that they all recover fully.
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Old 03-19-2011, 03:44 PM   #15
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Good luck, I hope you get all of the ticks out very soon.
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Old 03-20-2011, 02:59 PM   #16
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Hi guys!

Update and question!

My boyfriend found the doxycyclin and he is bringing me today but the other medicine he couldn't find and I bought from the internet, so hopefully they'll arrive soon. Just in case tomorrow I'll look for them in a large petshop that only opens during the week, so if I find there I'll buy too. I rather have too much medicine than having to wait for it to arrive.

The babies are a bit sleepy and I noticed that they're not eating much, so I bought baby food for them and I'm giving with a seringe (it takes good, so they like) and I'm doing the same with water.

I took them out of the cages, as the cages are big and harder to clean, i bought plastic containers that are easier to clean because I'm cleaning them everyday.

There's one thing that got me worried, the doctor said that Che's diarrhea could be from the dissease and that the doxy would fix it. But somehow I don't know if I can trust that and If I should start giving him antibiotics.
I insisted in that point because I know that not only he is weak from the ticks, but the diarrhea is dangerous too.

What do you guys think??

I can find baytril here in brazil in pills.

I don't like to give them medicine without a vet prescription but sometimes we don't know if we can trust the information. Everybody can make a mistake, vets too.

What do you guys think? I'm very worried about them so I'm reading a lot and think what can I do to help.

Right now I'm trying to make them gain weight.

Have you got any tips too?

Thank you!

Laura, Dito, Che And Fidel.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:33 PM   #17
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Oh, I do hope you little Hammies get better soon. Sending positive vibes to you. xxxxxxx
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:37 PM   #18
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baby food, tofu, egg (scrambled/ boiled), porridge and milky weetabix will all help them gain weight.
I wish your babies the best xxx
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:21 PM   #19
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Hi Everyone!
I'm sorry it's a while since I last wrote but I've been really busy with a new job and getting rid of the bugs.


And the good news is that I got rid of them! Yay! Babies are healthy, happy and I'm happy too.

Che still has diarhea, but I'll start on a new medicine for that, I hope it will work.

I have adopted a hamster that was being mistreated and I think he is sick or pregnant (I don't know the sex yet and the family didn't know either), I'll post a picture of him in another thread so maybe someone has the same problem and can help me, but I'll take him to the vet too.

Kisses,


Laura, Che, Dito and Fidel.
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Wonderful news! I'm happy the lil' hammies are alright. Good luck with Che and the new ham.
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