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Old 09-09-2016, 04:47 AM   #11
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I was thinking more of cages about the size suggested (Duna Fun large) - eg Savic Mickey 2XL and similar

Didn't realise it was a robo either! I will wait for robo owners to reply but the standard duna multy or Kerry Terrarium are probably good options and Standard Duna Multy only £33. If set up to give lots of cover and not too exposed.

This Robo breeder has a good range of suggestions - the gabbers she mentions aren't really available any more but they are similar to the duna multy.

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Old 09-09-2016, 04:52 AM   #12
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The Mickey is a similar size to my Kevin which is what Tinwë was in & it was way too much space for him, I'm hoping that at some point he might be brave enough for my Kerry but even that might be a step too far, only time will tell, right now he's in an 84L RUB which is only (60x37x35 cm internal measurements) which seems tiny but his confidence grows noticeably by the day, he's bigger than a robo too!
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Old 09-09-2016, 07:24 AM   #13
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I used duna fun large for my syrian hamster(dwarf sized) but i didn't find it big enough for an active hamster at any size. I also i agree that it's hard to clean. The flooring has like a pattern, for some reason, that the dirt clings to.
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Old 09-09-2016, 11:13 AM   #14
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I looked at the duna fun large but thought it looked a bit of a faff if you need to get at a ham in the base. I have a mini duna, a duna multy and a kerry. I had my old robo in the mini duna as he didn't like the space when I put him in the multy (weird contradictory hamster, Hector was bold and shy at the same time ) but I like both of those. I have a kerry for my Syrian but I don't think I'd like it for a robo as I think I'd find it too deep but I do like the multy and if Hector was braver he'd have stayed in that as I think it's a good flexible space.
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Old 09-09-2016, 12:16 PM   #15
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I have one robo in the alaska and one in the grosvenor

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The Grosvenor Large Rat and Hamster Cage with Shelf - Little Pet Warehouse

They are both easy to access and are deep enough to allow tunnelling.
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Old 09-09-2016, 02:24 PM   #16
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What if you didn't just put a robo or any other dwarf ham for that matter into a larger cage but instead tried transitioning very slowly over several months into a larger cage?Has anyone ever thought about that,or even tried that,because to me at least it sounds a lot more logical than just putting a potentially nervous hamster into a larger cage than it is used to and not even trying to let them have time to adjust.

Just a theory,but still worth thinking about.
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Old 09-09-2016, 02:28 PM   #17
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I've never had a Robo, but I'd like to. It is confusing - some have massive cages and seem fine, and some are very shy by the sound of it. Transitioning is good for upgrading in size but maybe only works for some of them.
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Old 09-09-2016, 11:24 PM   #18
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It can seem confusing but dwarf hams are rather different to syrians & you can't even generalise that much really as each dwarf species is different.
Some do love big cages & it's wonderful to see them enjoying it when they do but if you're used to dwarf hams it's not hard to tell when space just stresses them out for various reasons & you need to give them the smaller home they really want, some of those may eventually move on to bigger spaces but many will only ever be happy in a little secure & cosy home!

Amity I'm not sure where you get the idea that people don't give their hams a chance to adjust to larger spaces, I don't think anyone just gives up on them without much thought or effort before putting them in a smaller cage, often people will try various ways of upsizing again but you just have to accept that not all hams want a bigger cage, I don't see the problem tbh what matters is that they're happy not that they live up to our perhaps overly ambitious standards!
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Old 09-10-2016, 12:34 AM   #19
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I've kept Robo's in a cage as big as a meshed Ferplast 140 - and they loved it lol. I got fed up with the cage as the mesh meant I couldn't see in lol but the Robo's were very happy in there. I had a shelf going the full width of the cage at either end and plenty of tunnels / houses etc and they used every inch on the space lol.

However, when one of the pair died of old age the other had to be downsized as she got a bit senile in her old age and couldn't cope with the space and was moved into a Mickey XL (80cm narrow barred cage) then as she got more 'doddery', bless her, she ended up in Mini Duna. It was easy to see how much happier she was in that smaller cage for her last 3 months or so. I think you can soon gauge as to what they're happy with.

Plus it justified me keeping a variety of cages so I was able to prove to my husband that they were needed!

The levels / tubes on the Duna Fun were really annoying though. My dwarf hamster used to wee in the tubes which meant a lot of cleaning! If you got it I'd recommend getting 'end stops' so you can block off the holes if necessary. It can, of course, be converted into a 'normal' Duna.

These days I'd much rather go for a Maxi Duna or a narrow barred cage of some sort.

ETA: that's so true Cypher, I had a Chinese hamster in a bigger cage and he hated it no matter what I did! He ended up in a cage that I hated because it was hard to clean and I had been going to sell it as I didn't feel it was long enough either but he loved it so he stayed there until he died. It was a 3 tier IMac Fantasy.
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Old 09-10-2016, 11:12 PM   #20
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Goose is currently in a fairly large bin cage. I've put lots of tubes in, so she doesn't feel so exposed, but she still doesn't race around much. She sits still a lot of the time, she kinda looks spooked!

Thank you all, I'll definitely look into the cages you've mentioned. The reason I asked about the Duna fun large was because of the barred section combined with the base. I'm looking for anything that would allow a good amount of substrate while providing ventilation- I would have to keep the cage on a shelf, so top ventilation would be no good. Maybe a traditional style cage like the ones you've suggested would work better.
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