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Old 06-13-2016, 07:00 AM   #1
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Default What colour is this hamster?

Hi everyone,

My friends unsure of what colour her hamster is. Originally she thought it was dove banded but he now appears to be a more chocolate colour. However he has reddish eyes so i'm not entirely sure!

I thought Mink would be a possibility but he doesn't seem gingery brown

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Has anyone gotta any idea of what colour he is?
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Old 06-13-2016, 08:09 AM   #2
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He's definitely chocolate, is he from a pet shop? sometimes hamsters from pet shops should have black eyed but have red eyes for some reason. I believe chocolate hamsters have brown eyes? I'm not entirely sure - haven't seen one in person before. Looks too dark to be a mink, and he'd have eye rings also.
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Old 06-13-2016, 08:21 AM   #3
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He's definitely chocolate, is he from a pet shop? sometimes hamsters from pet shops should have black eyed but have red eyes for some reason. I believe chocolate hamsters have brown eyes? I'm not entirely sure - haven't seen one in person before. Looks too dark to be a mink, and he'd have eye rings also.
Thank you Winnie! Will past it on
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Old 06-13-2016, 08:27 AM   #4
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Homo Extreme Dilute Black would be my guess though it is claimed the gene is not in the UK.

Here's a few pics of adult and juvenile Homzygous ED Black
Amal 11-6-14-a.JPG
same hamster at 7 weeks old with his normal Black Band LH brother
Amal and Felix 9-4-14.jpg

Here are some random pics of 25 day old pups from my Extreme Dilute Black litter in Satin and normal coat.
H13 Litter day 25-b- Homo ED Black male.JPG
Note the red glow to this males eyes in this photo
H13 Litter day 25-e- Satin Homo ED Black male.JPG
H13 Litter day 25-l- Homo ED Black female #1.JPG

Your friends pup has dark ears which is not correct ear color for a Chocolate. Some hobbyist I know like to wrongly call Homozygous Extreme Dilute Black the false Chocolate.
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Old 06-13-2016, 08:41 AM   #5
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Homo Extreme Dilute Black would be my guess though it is claimed the gene is not in the UK.
The gene is in the UK now, but it's with a breeder and I'm guessing this hamster is from a pet shop, otherwise they would know the colour of him

Also, the ears appear to be the same colour as the fur - chocolate colour, which is what a chocolate should have.
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Think we need a clear pic of him/her as on my monitor it's ears look darker then it's coat. The joys of PC photos huh?
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Old 06-13-2016, 09:11 AM   #7
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Yes I think we do, It'll appear different on screens as well!
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Old 06-14-2016, 10:15 AM   #9
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The gene is in the UK now, but it's with a breeder and I'm guessing this hamster is from a pet shop, otherwise they would know the colour of him
Ooh, I didn't know that, do you know who?

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Also, the ears appear to be the same colour as the fur - chocolate colour, which is what a chocolate should have.
The NHC dove standard calls for "flesh grey" ears, whereas the chocolate standard calls for "very dark greyish brown" ears. That plus those very red eyes makes me think he is a dove rather than a chocolate (the standard for chocolate actually calls for black eyes, although I think most have very dark brown eyes).
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Old 06-14-2016, 07:41 PM   #10
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Hmm in these photos I would say he could be Umbrous Champagne(Black+Rust+Cinnamon) which would explain his chocolatey coloring, his Brown Ears, and his red eyes. I suggest Umbrous cause he is quite a bit darker then the Champagne hamsters I have seen.

If he is Dove he is the darkest Chocolate like Dove I've ever seen.
My Dovey was and Umbrous Dove and she is not anywhere near as dark as this fella
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