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Old 03-05-2016, 08:20 PM   #11
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love seeing all the hamsters and reading their stories love this
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Old 03-05-2016, 09:52 PM   #12
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Day Five
So with the guidance of a excellent Mentor, I started over in breeding Hamsters.
The goals set before me were:
Christian-To find out if he carried Black ,Cream, or Cinnamon.
Tynan-To discover if he was Umbrous and if he carried for Cream ,or Cinnamon
Hadiya-How to match her with a mate to improve on size,Health, as well as a future mate for either Christian, or Tynan.

Since Christian was the oldest of the three It was decided, and approved as a good choice to breed him to Yonina Reasons why she was a good choice were:
A) She was a Dove carrying Cream so would be a great test to find out if Christian Carried for Black, Cream, and Cinnamon.
B) Of all my own Home bred Female Hamsters she was the closest to the Standard in size and type.

The Yonians arrived The 4th of May 2010. 7 healthy pups born with ease. This was actually Yonina's 2nd litter her first being by her Uncle Sir Prize. It would be her last litter as well.
Meet the 1st pedigree sired litter from ST's hamstery
The Boys

and The Girls


The results showed Christian had gotten the Cinnamon gene but not the Black or Cream gene as with her first litter she had REC pups showing Yonina definitely carried cream

Sadly just months later I buried my Yonina when she stashed some fresh food and I didn't find it until it had went bad and she had ate it. The Vet tried everything to save her but it was too late. Lesson learned: Only give enough fresh food that the Hamster must sit and eat it and not store it, and to always inspect the whole cage for left over fresh food so it can't go moldy and kill if ate.

The next breedings were with Tynan. Nick Named Tynan The MAN well because of his equipment Ya'll know what I mean there.
The goal with Tynan was to breed him to determine:
A) if he carried for Cinnamon, or Cream, and the main one if he was like his Mom and was a Black Umbrous.
B) to use him to bring back my Yellow lines using the best Unrelated to Poohbear Tort.
c) to produce a nice mate for either his Sister Hadiya, or his Uncle Christian.

To determine if he was Umbrous my Mentor chose his 1st mate. A beautiful Cinnamon girl I named Orangey. Orangey was collected off Craigslist but had good size , and a very very sweet temperament.
Meet Orangey


The Oratyns arrived on June 8th 2010. 6 Pups arrived but one sadly was still born. Orangey was such a good Mother she refused to do what is normal and dispose of the dead pup herself so I had to use a spoon and remove it myself.

The litter showed Tynan was opposite of Christian and didn't carry the Cinnamon gene, and had all Black and Golden pups of which I kept back a Golden boy. We found Orangey was actually an Umbrous when she was bred to Melanistic Yellow and produced several Umbrous pups so we still didn't know if Tynan was Umbrous or not. It was still a very nice litter and most of the pups were offered to other breeders.

The Oratyns
The three Goldens

The two Blacks


Well I asked my Mentor what they felt about a beautifully patterned Black Tort band gal I had picked up again off Craigslist. Her name was Karma and for a Tort she acted like a BEC. My Mentor pointed out a few things which may show up with Tynan as the Sire but we both concluded it was worth the chance so Karma was bred to Tynan 2 days after he bred Orangey
Here are the best pictures I have of Karma posing with the Easter Bunny


The litter arrived exactly 2 days after Orangey's litter so they were born June 8th 2010. For Yellows this litter was to prove a HUGE disappointment. 13 pups were born, but only 8 were weaned and all but one male were Black and Black Bands. Needless to say you can't at all tell Umbrous on Black and the one Melanistic Yellow pup was not enough to confirm Umbrous with Tynan.
Here's what a female carrying 13 pups looks like just 24 hours of birthing

The Male pups at 4 weeks old

The Female pups also at 4 weeks old


Testing Tynan for Umbrous was gonna have to wait LOL.
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Old 03-06-2016, 02:48 AM   #13
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Lots of lovely hamsters! It's really interesting seeing how you gradually progressed the breeding
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Old 03-06-2016, 03:03 AM   #14
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some lovey pics and it is so nice to hear the history and the trial and tribulations as well as the sucesses of you hamster family Nancy
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Old 03-07-2016, 12:48 AM   #15
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Thanks all for the compliments. Almost as if planned as we continue the photos later today I had my first litter arrive. I have a second litter due in just 3 days from now and Mom looks like a walking soft ball with fur and legs so expect she will have a few more then 4 like my first litter. Both Moms are first time Moms and of my G2 Chocolate breedings.
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Old 03-07-2016, 02:21 AM   #16
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Goodness you will have your hands full! It'll be nice to see babies later in the month though! Lol at Mum looking like a walking furball with legs.
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Old 03-07-2016, 11:35 PM   #17
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Day Six
With Breeding season slowing down for the hamstery I went to a pet store looking for a nice BEC or REC Female to use with Tynan. What I ended up with was a Banded BEC female in need of immediate Rescuing. This poor thing sat in with over 20 other adult Syrian hamsters both male and female so full of pups she looked like she might not make it home before bursting. Loaded with rodent mites the store decided to spray her with a small animal Mite spray before boxing her up, and she was soaking wet in the box very stressed out and scared. I must admit the spray did work and all mites on her literally fell off her and to the bottom of the box quite dead, but the fact was she was not in any condition to have such mean treatment done to her let alone without asking me first, but what was done was done. I turned on the heat before leaving for home.

A quick prayer and a soft talk to her to hold out for the 45 minute drive home and to set up a maternity bin. I kid you not this gal listened and exactly 10 minutes of being introduced to her new home she birthed the first two of 10 pups. Against all odds she nursed and tended all 10 pups even though she didn't even have a chance to build a proper nest or stock up her food pantry or even get a cool drink of water. She never even thought about culling any and very happily raised all 10 pups to weaning age. Having a very large band it was suspected she was homozygous for the band gene and her litter didn't prove that wrong.

Needing a name the one that came to my mind and heart was Angel as she was and Angel with the harsh circumstances of her birthing as under this same situation most Syrians would have never ever calmed down enough to handle the stresses thrown at her. It was also nice that she was of good size and for a female had a beautiful LH coat of fur. Never mind the almost perfect full band, and darker apricot color cream coat. Her temperament was the utt most for friendly.

Miss Angel


and her 10 Cheribim properly named "The Heavenlys"
Girls:

Boys:


The one Mink band boy showed me Angel carried for Cinnamon and by the amount of Sables I would guess Dad was a Sable or Mink but we would never know for sure which.

Though I really didn't need a BEC Band male, one of the boys won my heart as he would always sit so still in my hands when held and never passed an opportunity to lick me on my hands and face. It didn't hurt he had a nice band and his coat was lovely. When you held him in hand like a ball he looked so much like a Tribble from Star Trek I couldn't resist naming him Tribble LOL.
Oh BTW if you haven't connected the dots on him and my Hamstery name the ST's stands for Star Trek Here is my rolly polly Tribble miester at 5 weeks old.


After a good 3 month rest it was time to breed Tynan to Angel. Having no clue on Angels age I decided to attempt a winter breeding which is not my normal procedure as I like to let the hamsters relax in the cold winter months.
I bred them, but Angel was back in heat when she was tested 4 days later. Being so late in the season I let them breed again. 4 days later Angel was again frozen in the position and I decided to not let them breed again thinking that Angel was just beyond the age of being able to conceive. Angel had been a great mom and I had her lovely son.

I did a full cage clean out and called it a season and figured I'd have to start a new hunt for a BEC mate for Ty in 2011.

Well since the bins are big enough I don't have to do a full clean out for about 3 weeks. So imagine my complete shock at almost binning 4 fully furred Golden Band pups when Angel came out of her igloo like any normal day and didn't even look like she was nursing pups. Again Angels ability to adjust came into play as by the time I had seen the pups which were buried under bedding ,under the igloo I had dumped 90% of the bedding in the bin. I had to grab the 4 pups out of the bin so my scent was on them but good sweet Angel just went over and licked and cleaned each pup and climbed into the now much fresher bedding nest and started nursing. I so wish all Syrians would have this girls attitude of life, and the great trust in humans she had.

Well 4 pups wasn't a great number for figuring out if Tynan was Umbrous but of 4 pups ONE was Umbrous Golden. Thus the testing of Tynan was now done as one Umbrous from a non umbrous mate means Tynan Had to be Umbrous Black. The pups were born Dec 14,2010. Named the Tyngels They were one of the most enjoyable litters I had or have had for tame and super friendly. The umbrous pup was the only female. I kept two of the Males to use with Hadiya in 2011.
Angel and the last photo of all the pups together


Another exciting event for me in 2010 was locating a Breeder in Tennesse who was willing to sell me a pedigreed Female. Named Winterbell's Gia she was an Umbrous Heterozygous Silver Gray Band SH CARRYING RUST, and Black. She was not show quality having a very poor band(only was on one side of her body) But she was unrelated to either Tynan or Christian and had a chance to carry Rex coat.

Here is Gorgeous Gia


Though my Mentor wasn't thrilled with Gia's head at all she liked a lot of the genes behind her.

I was asked to be a foster person on the last leg of a Ham train of several pups from a breeder in Missouri. Not only did I get to enjoy several beautiful pups destined to go to a well known breeder in Pennsylvania, but another in New York. The original plan was for only 4 visitors and 3 for me, and they were to visit for only 1 to 2 weeks at the most.

However they ended up coming and staying for much longer, plus we had a stow-a-way pup which the breeder told me was to go to the Penn. breeder but she said she didn't ask for a Satin Black Band male as she didn't breed Black color hamsters. The same was found with the New York breeder that she too had not purchased 4 pups as she only had space for the 3 she purchased. I contacted the original breeder and discovered Little Stow-A-Way was not supposed to go with me as I had told her(I had a list and photograph with me of each pup to be collected He was not there nor listed as a last minute change as the Breeder had claimed). Having been paid for the gas to drive almost 2 hours to collect the pups I offered to bring the little one back down but would have to be reimbursed for the gas cost. I was told to just keep him and enjoy.
Here is Stow-A-Way the name which stuck to my little-big unplanned new Pedigreed male.


Because of the extra length of stay over of the 4 pups not staying with me the New York breeder asked if I would like to use a rather interesting color Band male to any of my Pedigreed females so I asked my Mentor if he would be good with Hadiya. The mystery color boy looked sorta Chocolate but his ears said he wasn't.

This is Hillcrest's Wintrop

He didn't have as good type as we would have liked but looking at his pedigree my mentor felt we may get some very nice pups. My Mentor felt he would be a nice mate for Hadiya, and suspected his coloring was Homozygous Silver Black, so I took the breeder up on her offer.

On Sept 11th 2010 nine years after The World Trade Center disaster, "The Patriots" came into the world all 11 of them. Hadiya proved and excellent mother and all 11 were weaned and all but TWO were males. My mentor showed their skills in IDing color as Spot On as the whole litter was either Het Silver Gray, or Silver Black. Of course all would also be Rex carriers which would give me a great opportunity for breeding Rex coats in the future.
The Patriot Boys:

The Patriot Girls

I held back Three males and both Females from this litter. Next day will be the start of the 2011 breeding and the path to my first Rex coat and a breeding of Tynan to a lovely Honey Black Band Pup from Hillcrest Hamstery in Missouri that had a very puzzling results.
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Old 03-08-2016, 04:04 AM   #18
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Thank you for this month Nancy. It's been fascinating so far. You're doin a great job. And a good thread to read for anyone vaguely thinking of breeding to see how complex it can be.
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Wow. Amazing and fascinating and ofcourse loads and loads of cuteness.
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So many litters Nancy! Have you counted how many litters you've ever had? They must be adorable to have around. All the hams on today's post are gorgeous but I have a soft spot for Tribble!
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