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Old 02-25-2019, 07:25 AM   #1
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Default Is this new food mix good?

https://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/small...er/food/710798

Just found this food on Zooplus, it says new and it's not one I've seen before. The price looks pretty reasonable per KG although more expensive than Harry Hamster. Is it better than Harry Hamster for my Syrians? Is it worth switching over to or no?
Also would it be any good for dwarfs? As it's way cheaper than the Bunny ones that people recommend.
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Old 02-25-2019, 08:26 AM   #2
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It looks like an upgraded version of the Versele Laga mix. The protein levels are fine but I don't think the ingredients are that great, and the Bunny and Rodipet mixes are better (even though they have less protein). I am actually not sure if Grape seeds are safe anyway! Vegetable by-products can be not pleasant - very processed and vague as to where from - eg processed waste matter? It has a lot of peas in!

It may look nice and varied and isn't all bad. But I wouldn't use it. The fruit will most likely contain nasty preservatives (most dried fruit does unless it says it's organic). It isn't chock full of soya for protein like a lot of mixes, in fact it;s not clear where the 18% protein comes from. On the bag it says animal protein. I bought a J R Farm mix that had no soya and animal protein and it smelled horrible! Our hamster wouldn't eat it. Again that can be dubious by-products.

Harry Hamster is not bad - but it does rely solely on soya for protein, like a lot of mixes and my personal preference is for a mix that isn't chock full of soya as the main ingredient. Our last Syrian had Harry Hamster though and he lived to 2 years 8 monhts which is a good long life. But I decided to go soya free with our latest one. So he has always had the Rodipet and Bunny mixes (50/50) and protein supplemented. Untl this last 6 months when I started adding science selective which is soya based, and started using the ORganic Rodipet mix - which also uses soya for protein - but it's organic soya and also has lots of other natural ingredients.

I'd say - no for a dwarf hamster - has too much fruit/sugar in. I don't think the Bunny mix is great for a Syrian either as it's full of tiny itty bits. So I am more or less just using the Rodipet mix now - for the piece sizes. That and Harry Hamster have the best sized pieces for Syrians.

The Bunny mix is good for dwarf hamsters though. Sugar free and lots of seeds and smaller pieces.
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Old 02-25-2019, 09:03 AM   #3
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Default Re: Is this new food mix good?

I'd agree with Serendipity and say no for a dwarf too on account of the fruit. The bunny dwarf hamster dream expert is fine for a dwarf hamster, though you can supplement the protein, especially for a young dwarf, with plain chicken, tofu, egg, mealworms etc.

My dwarves also enjoy the rodipet mixes for dwarf hamsters and the MYPS mix from mixerama.de.
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Old 02-25-2019, 09:59 AM   #4
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It looks like an upgraded version of the Versele Laga mix. The protein levels are fine but I don't think the ingredients are that great, and the Bunny and Rodipet mixes are better (even though they have less protein). I am actually not sure if Grape seeds are safe anyway! Vegetable by-products can be not pleasant - very processed and vague as to where from - eg processed waste matter? It has a lot of peas in!

It may look nice and varied and isn't all bad. But I wouldn't use it. The fruit will most likely contain nasty preservatives (most dried fruit does unless it says it's organic). It isn't chock full of soya for protein like a lot of mixes, in fact it;s not clear where the 18% protein comes from. On the bag it says animal protein. I bought a J R Farm mix that had no soya and animal protein and it smelled horrible! Our hamster wouldn't eat it. Again that can be dubious by-products.

Harry Hamster is not bad - but it does rely solely on soya for protein, like a lot of mixes and my personal preference is for a mix that isn't chock full of soya as the main ingredient. Our last Syrian had Harry Hamster though and he lived to 2 years 8 monhts which is a good long life. But I decided to go soya free with our latest one. So he has always had the Rodipet and Bunny mixes (50/50) and protein supplemented. Untl this last 6 months when I started adding science selective which is soya based, and started using the ORganic Rodipet mix - which also uses soya for protein - but it's organic soya and also has lots of other natural ingredients.

I'd say - no for a dwarf hamster - has too much fruit/sugar in. I don't think the Bunny mix is great for a Syrian either as it's full of tiny itty bits. So I am more or less just using the Rodipet mix now - for the piece sizes. That and Harry Hamster have the best sized pieces for Syrians.

The Bunny mix is good for dwarf hamsters though. Sugar free and lots of seeds and smaller pieces.

Okay, thanks. I'll just stick with Harry Hamster for my Syrians then. My oldest is 2 years and 10 months now and he's had it all his life. I don't think I'll bother getting another dwarf any time soon, can't really justify the price difference between the discontinued Burgess dwarf mix and the Bunny dwarf mix, which is disappointing. It's way too expensive especially for a food that still needs supplementing with extra protein.
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