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Old 06-26-2017, 08:26 AM   #11
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It seems like duck has a bit of an undeserved reputation for being fatty,but it seems like mostly the skin is the fatty part while the breast for example isn't as fatty.However,I'd still feed other meats aside from duck and keep duck to being fed sparingly just in case.

I haven't personally tested duck myself(at least on its own),but I do know other forum members have used it and it isn't a problem.I'm not sure what brands you'd get in Canada or which would actually have duck(not duck liver if you're concerned about the fat,which rules out Orijen's duck singles which would be great otherwise).
Hmm. Maybe I'll get some and try it with Ginny and my pups. I'll order some in a moment.
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Old 06-26-2017, 08:27 AM   #12
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These are the best quality dried meat I've found, not a big fan of thrive nor are my hams! They love the chicken & duck, I don't give them tuna.
Duck is very high in fat, I only gave it for a while when chicken was out of stock & of course they'd rather have duck now but that's tough, they get chicken again!
One to avoid is Dokas, they go mouldy!
Already feed the chicken you linked Cypher! And Quigley loooovveeess it it's just that I heard freeze dried was better so I thought I should get him some. Would you say that is correct? Or is the Tigeria which I am already feeding just as good?
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Old 06-26-2017, 08:28 AM   #13
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It seems like duck has a bit of an undeserved reputation for being fatty,but it seems like mostly the skin is the fatty part while the breast for example isn't as fatty.However,I'd still feed other meats aside from duck and keep duck to being fed sparingly just in case.

I haven't personally tested duck myself(at least on its own),but I do know other forum members have used it and it isn't a problem.I'm not sure what brands you'd get in Canada or which would actually have duck(not duck liver if you're concerned about the fat,which rules out Orijen's duck singles which would be great otherwise).
Thanks Amity in that case, duck would seem fine!
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Old 06-26-2017, 08:30 AM   #14
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I have never heard that freeze dried was better tbh & I wouldn't know why, all I know is this seems to be good quality & keeps a lot better than some others I've had, in the end it has the nutrition you need & it is only a small treat so nothing to stress over really!
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Old 06-26-2017, 08:34 AM   #15
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That's great to hear Cypher. Glad I have not been feeding anything unhealthy! It was Amity who said freeze dried was really good, though I suppose air dried may be equally good. I didn't ask!

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Old 06-26-2017, 08:35 AM   #16
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It's mostly known with dogs rather than hamsters.It's because it preserves all the nutrition unlike other means of processing(such as with cooked meat for example which is nowhere near as beneficial),but only removes the moisture.Essentially,it's raw without the sometimes gross side of feeding raw(at least when it comes to animal protein)

Air dried might be nearly as good,not sure about equally as good though,but most likely it would be a lot better than cooked meat regardless.
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Old 06-26-2017, 08:39 AM   #17
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It's mostly known with dogs rather than hamsters.It's because it preserves all the nutrition unlike other means of processing(such as with cooked meat for example which is nowhere near as beneficial),but only removes the moisture.Essentially,it's raw without the sometimes gross side of feeding raw(at least when it comes to animal protein)

Air dried might be nearly as good,not sure about equally as good though,but most likely it would be a lot better than cooked meat regardless.
Thank you that makes sense I guess. So, what do you make of this air dried chicken? It's what I have been feeding. It doesn't seem to be processed or anything.

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Old 06-26-2017, 08:47 AM   #18
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I would mostly feed freeze dried but for example on a duck day you could use the duck version of those.I had to go back and do a bit of extra research to figure out for sure,but air dried isn't quite as good as freeze dried(uses a bit of heat,not enough to truly cook it but still enough where it would be somewhat different nutritionally and isn't quite raw).They seem really good other than that though!

Do they have any sort of indication that they'd been irradiated?This would be my only other concern for those and any product for that matter,since anything irradiated would be unsafe.
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Thanks. How would I know if they had been irradiated?
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Old 06-26-2017, 08:51 AM   #20
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Honest opinion this is kind of like splitting hairs You could go on forever searching for the ultimate healthy meat but what you already use is just fine, nothing to worry about at all.
Not sure you can really compare dogs & hams tbh Amity, they have a very different digestive system & while it's natural for dogs to eat meat the closest hams come to meat in the wild is mostly small beetles so different all round really.
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