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Old 01-25-2015, 04:22 PM   #1
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Default The diabetic question

There was some talk about what causes diabetes in hamsters on the food thread so I thought I'd start a new thread on this topic. Personally I am not an expert on diabetes in hamsters. As a former nurse I know about human diabetes. Type 1 which is usually genetic and requires insulin injections and type 2 which is also known as late onset diabetes and is usually managed with diet and sometimes pills.

I don't think research is ever concluded in such illnesses but the general thought on late onset diabetes was that it can be caused by having a high sugar diet over a number of years.

I am not an expert in diabetes in hamsters but I know some people on here are quite knowledgeable about it. My understanding is that a low sugar diet or sugar free diet is recommended for hamsters who have a predisposition to getting diabetes.

I believe there was some disagreement about whether it was caused by sugar or obesity, but I think that obesity is probably a secondary cause of a high sugar intake and not the actual cause of the diabetes - although it could be a bit of both.

If anyone has some clinical findings on the matter, perhaps they could post it here.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:12 PM   #2
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Hi Serendipity,
I really like the topic of this thread and hope you get plenty feedback. I know that the dwarf hamster can be at risk of diabetes and require a stricter diet than the syrian.
I've never heard of a syrian hamster having diabetes and wonder if anyone has.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:20 PM   #3
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Two myths about diabetes debunked on the American Diabetes Association website.

Myth: If you are overweight or obese, you will eventually develop type 2 diabetes.

Fact: Being overweight is a risk factor for developing this disease, but other risk factors such as family history, ethnicity and age also play a role. Unfortunately, too many people disregard the other risk factors for diabetes and think that weight is the only risk factor for type 2 diabetes. Most overweight people never develop type 2 diabetes, and many people with type 2 diabetes are at a normal weight or only moderately overweight.



Myth: Eating too much sugar causes diabetes.

Fact: The answer is not so simple. Type 1 diabetes is caused by genetics and unknown factors that trigger the onset of the disease; type 2 diabetes is caused by genetics and lifestyle factors.

Being overweight does increase your risk for developing type 2 diabetes, and a diet high in calories from any source contributes to weight gain. Research has shown that drinking sugary drinks is linked to type 2 diabetes.

The American Diabetes Association recommends that people should avoid intake of sugar-sweetened beverages to help prevent diabetes. Sugar-sweetened beverages include beverages like:

regular soda
fruit punch
fruit drinks
energy drinks
sports drinks
sweet tea
other sugary drinks.
These will raise blood glucose and can provide several hundred calories in just one serving!

See for yourself:

Just one 12-ounce can of regular soda has about 150 calories and 40 grams of carbohydrate. This is the same amount of carbohydrate in 10 teaspoons of sugar!
One cup of fruit punch and other sugary fruit drinks have about 100 calories (or more) and 30 grams of carbohydrate.
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Old 01-26-2015, 02:29 AM   #4
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The NHS uk page (link below) describes both types of diabetes and is quite vague about the cause of type 2 diabetes, saying it is "often associated with obesity" and goes on to mention diet and lifestyle.

When working as a nurse we were told that a high sugar diet was a predisposition (although this was some 20 years ago and views may have changed). A high sugar diet could of course cause obesity.

It suggests to me that research has still not determined a particular cause but that it is wise to eat a healthy diet, avoid too much sugar, and not become obese. A healthy diet does tend to include low sugar. It did used to be called 'sugar diabetes' by my parents generation. A high carbohydrate diet could also cause an excess of sugar as carbohydrate is broken down into sugars.

The NHS link is here

Diabetes - NHS Choices

Medical News Today reports research that says sugar is the main culprit and not just high calories. So it seems to have gone full circle and come back to a high sugar diet being seen as a prime cause.

High Sugar Consumption Linked To Type 2 Diabetes - Medical News Today

So in terms of whether it is obesity and lifestyle, or high sugar that causes diabetes it seems that both views are correct, but that sugar intake is a significant factor. Certainly in people who already have diabetes, sugar intake needs to be managed - and the theory is that many people develop it gradually or are prediabetic, so don't know they have it. This could also be the case in hamsters, so in breeds of hamsters known to be at risk, it would seem sensible to reduce sugar intake and ensure a balanced diet, especially as they may already have undiagnosed diabetes.

Just to confuse matters, the US National Library of Medicine has published research into diabetes in chinese hamsters, saying that there is a recessive gene causing type 1 diabetes and inbreeding has caused a line of hamsters born with diabetes who have prediabetes. Not all chinese hamsters, just the ones born with the gene, but it does talk about percentages and breeding lines. They say restriction of calories and dietary fat prevented onset of the disease in prediabetics. However it could be that the restriction of calories included low sugar (which is very high in calories) and this is not specified. The point here is - they are talking about type 1 diabetes (requiring insulin injections) having a low fat diet. Whereas it is type 2 diabetes that needs to avoid sugar. Although a low calorie diet is also recommended to prevent the onset of type 1 diabetes and sugar is high in calories.

The Chinese hamster as a model for the study of diabetes mellitus. - PubMed - NCBI

Another University article (I haven't put the link as it may cause distress because it is about using hamsters for medical research), mentions that Syrians tend to be disease free, and if they do succumb to illness it tends to be respiratory, gastrointestinal or carcinogenic. There is no mention of diabetes in Syrian hamsters and it doesn't appear to be an issue, although it does say it causes dental caries in Syrian hamsters, so it would seem sensible not to give them too much sugary food also!

Vectis Hamstery's website has a nice concise version of most of this.

Diabetes in Hamsters - Vectis Hamstery and Exotics

So I can see that anyone with a dwarf hamster or Chinese hamster, will need to have a low sugar balanced diet, and it seems a low fat diet may also be helpful in Chinese hamsters according to the article above.

So regarding what the cause is and what the diet should be, (there was some disagreement on the other thread on diet) it seems both are right and it is a confusing issue, but it does seem common sense anyway to give hamsters a healthy diet low in fats and sugars, just as it common sense for humans, but particularly important for dwarf hamsters and chinese.

Personally I don't worry about sugars in vegetables as they are far lower than those in fruit and are natural sugars, but if anyone knows different, then please post!
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:00 AM   #5
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I`m one of those people who try not to over-think diabetes in susceptible hamsters (Chinese and Hybrid Russian dwarfs/Campbells). I currently have a hybrid Russian male who I took on at ten months of age, so I have no idea what his previous owners fed him on and so I feed him on a variety of what I consider some of the best mixes. Currently, JR Farm dwarf hamster mix (sugar free), Burgess Supahamster which although has corn/maize in the mix, these are naturally occurring starches and not `added` sugars, so I never worry about those. If I did, all I would be doing is depleting the nutritional balance of his diet. I also recently bought a bag of Supreme Science Selective biscuits as this is a complete food, but I only add one biscuit to his diet every few days as he likes the biscuit texture and this food has no added sugars either, so I know from what he`s eating it`s not going to harm him.

I would always steer clear of all shop bought treats from pet shops and as a `treat`, these are best fed in the form of human grade `safe` foods like mixed nuts (in moderation), pumpkin seeds, black sunflower seeds and some raw, fresh vegetables. Fat pets are not healthy pets, so keeping a very close eye on how much your hamster eats every day is also worth noting. My lad could be doing with attending hamster slimming world if I`m honest but he loves his nosh!!!

Put it this way....hamsters are short lived, so although we have to put some thought into their diets and health, they also shouldn`t be deprived of what they enjoy, in moderation. x
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:01 PM   #6
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Great! I haven't seen that one. Just started this because there was some disagreement over it on another thread - just so there was some info available in one place - but there's probably already a thread on it!
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:16 AM   #7
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Default Re: The diabetic question

For what its worth, I know a lot of hamsters who've been diabetic despite a low sugar diet. In the cases I paid closest attention to (including that of my own diabetic dwarf) there were reasons to believe genetics had played a far bigger part than diet.
I won't feed any hamster a block of sugar for breakfast and we do watch what goes into our pets diets and how often they have sugary treats but we're no more careful with the hybrids and chinese than we are with our syrians and roborovski. I genuinely think that genetics is a far bigger factor than diet when it comes to causes of diabetes in hamsters.
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Old 01-27-2015, 10:01 AM   #8
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I have a lot of experience with diabetes in hamsters and although I think diet plays a part of a small percentage of those who develop diabetes at any point in life I think for hamsters it plays a smaller role than we might imagine. After having several hamsters with diabetes I suspect it is primarily genetics no matter when diabetes develops.

Diabetes in hamsters doesn't seem to map perfectly on to diabetes in humans but it is certainly very very similar. In my opinion (and I have no research to back this up right now) it seems that a healthy diet high in fiber and low in sugar can delay the onset of diabetes symptoms in hamsters, but it doesn't seem to actually prevent a hamster from developing diabetes if their genetics already determine that they will have diabetes. I think a healthy diet is probably better looked at as something that may delay onset and manage symptoms more than it is something that will outright prevent diabetes.

That's not to say that diet will never be a contributing factor or that a hamster will never develop diabetes because of a poor diet. It's just to say that in the majority of cases I don't think we can prevent diabetes in hamsters with diet alone.

If anyone has any questions I am more than happy to answer them. I also made a video about our first diabetic hamster, Toffee, that can be found here: http://youtu.be/blE-DcpUBmA
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Old 01-28-2015, 06:35 AM   #9
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I just watched the video of Toffee, it shows the effect diabetes can have on their health. The loss of weight and the battle to get his weight back up. Truly moving. Also, it showed that insulin did work and he went from one injection to 2.
If you suspect diabetes in your hamster then get him/her to a vet. They know best.
Such admiration for The PipSqueakery who adopt/foster many hamsters, a truly wonderful job done by them.
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An amazing storyboard from a super little fighter. He went through a journey to educate others, so rest in peace little Toffee. This video just proves that knowing the right approach is the best way forward. x
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