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Old 03-18-2019, 02:56 AM   #1
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Default Safe PVA other than Elmer's

Hello. I was wondering if there are any supermarket bought PVA glues that are hamster as safe even if chewed. My son wanted to make some toys for when we get a new hamster in a few weeks? We have used Elmer's but ran out its also quite expensive. Is Elmer's school glue safe if chewed it's water soluble .. many thanks in advance
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:07 AM   #2
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I would just get another bottle of Elmer's - Amazon sell it

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Elmers-E304...rs+school+glue

If you click on "other sellers" and scroll down - there is a "fulfilled by Amazon" seller so it'll get there quicker. Although it does look lie it won't be available until April which isn't much help if you need it now. Maybe someone else will know of an equivalent. I know of a hamster safe wood glue which is very good but not sure if it's suitable for children to use - in terms of getting messy fingers etc.
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:13 AM   #3
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Which wood glue is that? Is gorilla wood glue safe. I think more for playpen toys as opposed to cage toys for that. I'm guessing not all PVA is safe then will order more Elmer's
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:25 AM   #4
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It's actually one the German's use - called Ponal Classic - it's brilliant stuff and glues wood absolutely solid. Doesn't smell of anything and looks a bit like thin copydex - I have used it to glue legs onto houses. I am not sure if a child should use it though as it may glue their fingers if they get it on their fingers. I wouldn't use any of the other wood glues personally due to the toxic fumes.

It's not cheap but it's a big bottle - I've been using my bottle for over 2 years on all kinds of things! Been useful round the house too. It's non toxic but as I say not sure I'd let a child use it!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ponal-44272...lue+ponal+wood
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:41 AM   #5
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Good old Amazon have ordered 3 Elmer's glue and the ponal. Twenty eight quid on glue in one day lol. Never mind. Comes tomorrow thank you! So is ponal safe if chewed? Whilst your here we are debating making a hamster hammock I have ordered some polar fleece is that safe do u know?
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Ha ha - the Ponal will last for ever. Yes it is safe to chew once dry, but best not to have any glue visible - I just wipe any bits off that seep out when you stick something together, but you need to wipe it off when just done or it sets quickly. Takes about 24 hours to set firmly. I had to prop things in place until it was set or they just fall apart until it starts to harden.

I wouldn't make a fleece hammock to be honest. A lot of hamsters will just chew it and then it's a risk if they swallowed any. You can buy a grass hammock though that's safe to chew. Amazon and Zooplus sell it. I couldn't use it as I'm asthmatic and I was allergic to it! Anything grassy .......

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Natural-Ham...=grass+hammock

You can also get chill and chew mats made out of woven hyacinth - a bit softer but less flexible - and some people have turned those into hammocks.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rosewood-Bo...ill+n+chew+mat

I did try our last hamster with a Fleece hammock but he immediately tried to chew it (they forage for nice nesting material) so had to take it out again and he then had a major tantrum about it. Fuzzbutts sell very good fleece hammocks for rats and some people use those (chinese and dwarf hamsters seem less likely to chew them) = but I also think the eyelets for hanging them can be a risk (a foot getting caught eg) there have been many hamsters found hanging by a broken leg from a hanging roof toy - chains are particularly risky. There are usually ways round things with hanging them though.

I have the Fuzzbutts mini snooze cube - but don't use it in the cage - I use it for out of cage time and for the hamster to hop in and out of to lift him out of the cage (I lower it through the top and he walks into it).

I did have it in our last syrian's cage when he was very old and incapable of chewing much!

http://www.fuzzbutt.co.uk/Homersnooze-6a/
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Old 03-18-2019, 06:33 AM   #7
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I will have a look at the hammock. Saw a post on here about weaving one with sisal string i have a ball of that so may give that a go first. Feeling crafty lol
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:13 AM   #8
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Pretty much all standard kids PVA is non-toxic and safe. I just buy supermarket brand PVA tbh
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:23 AM   #9
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i bought some today then had a paranoid moment lol. Never mind my boy will use it anyway
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Old 03-18-2019, 09:56 AM   #10
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The sisal string hammocks aren't safe either unfortunately. They can get their feet caught up and still end up hanging by a broken leg. Sisal string is safe to chew so good for tying things to the bars etc.
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