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Old 08-04-2019, 09:55 AM   #11
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:55 AM   #12
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It’s good to know the cage arrived quickly and undamaged from Amazon UK! I almost bought it in the past but the UK listing didn’t have any reviews so I didn’t want to risk it with such an expensive item
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Old 08-04-2019, 10:00 AM   #13
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Wait what!? *face of utter horror*
Dwarf hamsters need just as much unbroken floor space as Syrians do (around 600 square inches minimum).

Iíd rather not derail this thread tho so feel free to message me if you want to discuss this more.
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:03 AM   #14
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That's a lovely cage. Really hoping it is made available all over the world so that more hamsters can benefit from this.
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Old 08-08-2019, 04:09 PM   #15
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I live in the US and the only ones Iíve seen (of course Iím a beginner) is the critter trail. I didnít think it had enough space so I added tubes but Iím realizing that almost no one here uses tubes...we have a dwarf and she seems content climbing through but does she not have enough room??
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:37 AM   #16
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I live in the US and the only ones Iíve seen (of course Iím a beginner) is the critter trail. I didnít think it had enough space so I added tubes but Iím realizing that almost no one here uses tubes...we have a dwarf and she seems content climbing through but does she not have enough room??
Have a look at the thread " let's see your cages" on the Forum under Housing and you will soon realize that a Critter Trail cage is not suitable for any hamster.
I believe the minimum recommended cage size for a dwarf is 70cm x 40cm.

Tubes, hamster balls etc, opinions will differ, some people use them and some don't. I don't because i find tubes unhygienic and they lack ventilation, same applies to the balls.
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Old 08-09-2019, 11:22 AM   #17
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There are two cages in the US you can buy online that would in theory be suitable for dwarf species(not Syrians as they're still small for Syrians).

Option 1, the Kevin 82:
https://www.petmountain.com/product/...small-pet-cage

Option 2, the Goran 82(not the 72):
https://www.petmountain.com/product/...?variant=22054

I wouldn't use plastic tubes in a cage setup because of all the potential serious health issues they can bring. It doesn't matter how big the tubes are or if there are a few holes in them, they're all still plastic and the universal problem with plastic is that it does not breathe at all and traps moisture because of this(yes, even with holes).
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Old 07-15-2020, 09:36 AM   #18
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Hi,Iíve just bought a Borneo xl cage. Itís massive, which is wonderful, but now I canít find a suitable base to put it on. Not looking forward to putting it together either as I might have to do this on my own. Still, looking forward to kitting it out. I want to do it natural style, even bioactive. Has anyone done this with a Borneo? Also any tips,on how to assemble it - there are some strange little pieces and no instructions. Thanks
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Old 08-07-2020, 04:34 AM   #19
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Has anyone in the UK managed to purchase this cage recently. It is unavailable on Amazon and the only other place I have really seen it is on the German website called Zoo Store, however they will deliver to the UK. For those who have bought it, is the product packed well?
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Old 08-07-2020, 07:41 AM   #20
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Hello. It's available on Amazon.de. on the link below - although it depends who the seller is - it's not until you put it in the basket and go part way through the transaction process (without completing it) that it shows whether Uk delivery is possible and how much.

To be honest it is a very very tall cage for a Syrian hamster and there is now a better 100cm cage with a big front door available in the Uk. The Savic Hamster Plaza. It's £75 and sold by Pets at Home. It's the same size - 100 x 50 but not nearly as tall so much easier to set up safely.

The Savic Plaza is approx 48cm tall so with the base full of bedding the fall risks aren't really an issue. The Borneo is 60cm tall - it really needs a full level to make it safe.

I've also added the link to the Savic Plaza. I have it for one of our syrians. I didn't use the green shelf because it takes up too much space, along with the ladder, so I bought a different shelf and use a large labyrinth hosue as a shelf too - also makes it easier to fit a house and wheel in (which is difficult wiht the green shelf and ladder in place).

Borneo

https://www.amazon.de/M%C3%A4use-und...6810739&sr=8-5

Savic Hamster Plaza

https://www.petsathome.com/shop/en/p...r-and-rat-cage

There are also two very good 100cm cages sold by Zooplus - the Barney and Alexander cages - which come with good platforms (most people paint the wood shelves with plastikote water based enamel paint to waterproof them).

They don't have the big front door though - they have two smalll doors at the front and a big one on top. I also have the Barney cage and it worked really well for one syrian who was quite gregarious, but the small front doors didn't work well at all for our current syrian as he is more shy. It was a nightmare trying to get him out.

I like the Savic Plaza. It seems the Barney and Alexander aren't in stock at Zooplus at the moment anyway.
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