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Old 03-12-2016, 05:59 PM   #1
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Default Over breeding - true or false?

What are the signs of a hamsters mother being over bred in terms of her offspring? I read on a hamster group on a popular social media site late last year that you can tell if a mother has been over bred by the way her children act and behave.
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Old 03-13-2016, 07:54 PM   #2
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I've only seen effects on pups from Dwarf Hybrids that were over bred. The pups didn't act or behave different but their over all health and size were very bad when I took in a mated pair that the past owner thought they would regulate their matings. The litter they birthed for me(Her 5th in a row), almost took the Dam's life birthing cause she was so emaciated and weak. only two pups were born alive of five, and the one live pup was a Micro Dwarf who at 15 days old could sit inside a 16 oz Pop bottle cap with room to spare,
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and at 31 days required a customized small pill bottle to be a suitable tunnel.
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Here he is at 31 days walking on my desk top PC keyboard
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and a funny one which would make a very interesting looking Starwars alien
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This was him and his litter mate as Quark kissed his litter mate good-bye when his new owner took him over in Mid Indiana. You can see the HUGE size difference by 8 weeks old, which was the time it took for me to feel comfortable in allowing Quark to travel the long distance drive he had to take.
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Dubbed Tiny Tim at first he was renamed Quark(from The Star Trek Deep Space Nine series) by a gal who begged me to take him as I was too leary to even pet him out. Quark was one tough cookie and traveled from Mid Ohio to mid Wisconsin a 14 hour drive for little Quarky, but he took it all in great stride and never even missed a mealworm feast. However he had major teeth issues and required a major surgery to save his life and after that every 30 day routinely teeth trims at the Vets to assure he would be able to live as normal a life as a Micro Dwarf can live. He actually reached 3 years old before peacefully curling in his mistresses hand and leaving this world for the Final Frontiers.
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Old 03-14-2016, 12:24 AM   #3
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Oh my I've never seen anything like that. I'm not sure I understand, did he get a new home? Sounds like the issue there was malnutrition and exhaustion of the poor mum. Is that what you heard Zak? Smaller pups?
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Old 03-14-2016, 08:09 PM   #4
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Yes Piebald his only owner bugged and bugged me and I really was so unsure of the little fella being able to survive the long, long drive, But I told her if he was still healthy by 2 months old that I would let her have him. The reason he was so small was because the Mom was never allowed to rest between litters and had pups suckling, and pups growing in the womb every 21 days for five straight litters. Her whole body was worn down and so she lacked enough things in her body to help embryos in the womb gain all the nutrition and vitally important things for the embryo to properly develop and grow. His bigger sister was actually 1/2 the size of a normal Mostly Campbell dwarf herself, but was just a normal hybrid on the smaller side of the size scale where Quark was a dwarfed Dwarf hamster. The gal who took Quark also bought a Syrian from my Shreynan litter talked about in my Month of March Photo thread. The surgery for Quark was over $900.00 as it was done by a Mouse specialist Vet. Quark was dosed with the gas and anesthesia as if he were a 8 week old mouse pup. His owner said she would mortgage the house to save little Quarky.

This was Quark just after his 2nd Birthday
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Old 03-18-2016, 12:51 AM   #5
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What a lovely end to the story it has me smiling now.
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:17 AM   #6
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What a lovely end to the story it has me smiling now.
Same And in tears - but then I'm pretty emotional today anyway! But I am so so glad he had someone fighting for him just as much as he put up the fight for life. That was certainly a very special ham!
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