Syrian & Russian what age to breed my females ?

[Bunsey]

Originally Posted by Jammy

Hello everyone its been a while

Just want to pose a point here have i ever said in this thread ham in question is from a pet shop ?

All my syrians are from a local breeder and i havent bred with my russian as yet

I do appreciate the advice though

Thankyou
Juliet

it doesn't mean a thing that they are from a breeder! If you don't know the breed then it's obvious that the breeder is not a registered one. They would know the breed. If you trace back the generations they are most likely from a pet shop. Whether they are going to friends or not, you still shouldn't be breeding an animal whose species you do not know!

[Jammy]

I have a syrian girlie and a winter white russian girlie which is what i said originally i did not say i had NO idea what species she was to be fair if you read above it states that !

Also my female syrian is Golden and i have a very nice little man to pair her with and YES as far as i am concerned they do come from a ''GOOD'' breeder
Also i DID NOT get the syrians and the dwarf's from the same person anyway.


I thought places like this were to encourage new members not send them away screaming !!
I have to say i am very disspaointed by the way in which memberes have ''spoken'' to me regarding this

A rather saddened member
Juliet

[haziebabie]

What sort of white russian do you have?

[Jammy]

She is a winter white

x

[Bunsey]

Originally Posted by Jammy

She is a white russian


J x

no-where in this thread do you give any impression that you knew your hamster was a winter white. As quoted above, you simply say that you have a white-coloured russian. There are plenty of white-coloured dwarfs that are not winter whites. In fact, winter whites are never completely white.

My priority when i answer posts is for the welfare of the hamsters. Unless your hamster is bought from a registered breeder (who can produce a certificate from the National Hamster Council), then there is very slim chance of a dwarf hamster beeding pure, regardless how "good" the breeder is, or how much they care for their hams. The breeder themselves may well fully believe their hamsters to be pure, but unless they come from registered breeders, pure hams are practically extinct.

[Jammy]

Originally Posted by Bunsey

no-where in this thread do you give any impression that you knew your hamster was a winter white. As quoted above, you simply say that you have a white-coloured russian. There are plenty of white-coloured dwarfs that are not winter whites. In fact, winter whites are never completely white.

My priority when i answer posts is for the welfare of the hamsters. Unless your hamster is bought from a registered breeder (who can produce a certificate from the National Hamster Council), then there is very slim chance of a dwarf hamster beeding pure, regardless how "good" the breeder is, or how much they care for their hams. The breeder themselves may well fully believe their hamsters to be pure, but unless they come from registered breeders, pure hams are practically extinct.

Can i please add i am also breeding a syrian and not just a whinter white russian and i purely came here for some updated opinions/advice on age to breed with which should surely show i have only the hams wellfare at heart ! and i only asked as i have been out of breeding for some years !!

My golden syrian is actually being mated first and i may or may not breed my dwarf at all there wellfare comes first at all times i purely wish to carry on there truly wonderful temperament in these syrian hamster matings

[souffle]

I am sorry you are dissappointed by some of the answers given to your posts however I feel that they have been given with a genuine concern for the hamsters in question. It is useful to consider everyones opinions and respect them even if you do not agree,
Most of the people who have offered advice have sadly had experience of the damage that breeding from hamsters of unknown genetics can cause. More often than not people are lucky it must be said, but for the percentage that are born with no eyes, no teeth, birthing problems, terrible neurological problems like head tilt, twitches and spinning, diabetes, glaucoma and other geneticially passed on diseases life is certainly no bed of roses. It is our moral duty to try and ensure all hamsters we breed are healthy and of good temperament so their lives can be the best they can be in my opinion.
If you know the breeder of your hamsters it would be nice to ask for the pedigrees then you will be able to see what genes your hamsters carry. Golden hamsters can certainly carry the white belly gene so be very careful what the partner for her is unless you are certain she does not carry it.
Good luck with your breeding ventures.

[skyjabreed]

You should never mate a Syrian girl who is over 6 months !
And never mate Syrian and Dwarf hamster ! I've heard bad stories of mating different breeds together.

Here in Iceland we mate our syrian girls about 3-6 months old.
And our male's 2 months +

[shazzy]

Originally Posted by skyjabreed

And never mate Syrian and Dwarf hamster ! I've heard bad stories of mating different breeds together.

Don't worry, I think you may have misread the post - I don't think she wants to breed the Russian and Syrian together!

[souffle]

PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU READ THE DATE OF AN ORIGINAL POST BEFORE ANSWERING IT. tHIS THREAD IS OVER A YEAR OLD AND THIS PERSON DOES NOT COME ON THE FORUM ANYMORE.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AS IT MAY CAUSE DISTRESS IF FOR EXAMPLE A HAMSTER HAS PASSED AWAY.