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Old 05-20-2012, 05:47 AM   #11
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well I wouldn't take breeding advice from someone who breeds them to feed to snakes! I doubt, if they're only going to be food, he is taking the best care of them - why bother when they're just snake lunch soon? just because some of his hamsters apparently live peacefully together, it is, again, NOT a risk you should take. I assume the reason he keeps them together is to save space, and what's one dead hamster to him anyway? more like an early dinner for the snake or something. don't get me wrong here, I know snakes have to eat etc, but I just don't think it is a good idea to take pointers from someone who is breeding hamsters for food rather than for show/furthering lines. did you mate yours randomly? do you know that some colours and genetics cannot be bred together? it really worries me that you've dived right into this with very little knowledge, demonstrated by your need to ask if Syrians can be kept together and the fact that you're touching the babies when they're only a few days old.
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Old 05-20-2012, 05:51 AM   #12
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My main concern about your friend - Does he not know that rats/mice tend to make a better diet for snakes? They stay in groups a lot more safely too

As far as syrians staying together, it happens on rare occasions but as has been said they could turn and kill each other at any moment so its really, really best not done.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:14 AM   #13
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Hi, please listen to the advice from people on this post! Many have years or experience dealing with and breeding hammies. I too am worried that u need to ask if Syrians can be together. Hamsters are very cute and loveable but will rapidly change when presented with another hamster! Syrians will fight to the death over territory.. They are very territorial demonstrated by the fact some hammies (including one of mine) will defend their cages even from the human they hug when not in the cage!
This forum contains the best advice and Information you will ever get on hammies.
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Sorry, I have also experienced how they fight directly as when I was about 8 me and my friend (who also had a hamster) decided to clean our hamsters in the garden and let them play together! Well the result was the most extraordinary "battle" scream from the hamsters they went for it with teeth and fur flying everywhere!! I sustained a couple of nasty bites trying to get them apart and both hammies had to go to the vets!
I've never made that mistake again.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:19 AM   #14
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I know it and i totally understood it even before I asked. I just wanted to know if someone here has different experiences that´s all.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:39 AM   #15
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You didn't recognise the pups scent glands as being scent glands, but rather as being a type of colouring.
You disturbed the pups before their eyes were open which is a very dangerous thing to do and you asked about putting Syrian's together - despite claiming to already know that they can't be put together.

All of those things come across as you having little knowledge of what you're doing with your hamsters.

I apologise if this isn't the case - I'm not judging you on your post as it is very hard to gain much information from an internet post - for all I know you could be an experienced breeder. However I feel the need to point out that the facts I stated above are probably why people are responding to you with concern.

Everyone here is very friendly and welcoming and we all have the best interest of your hamsters at heart.

So, I would please urge you to listen to the advice you have been given
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:47 AM   #16
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You didn't recognise the pups scent glands as being scent glands, but rather as being a type of colouring.
You disturbed the pups before their eyes were open which is a very dangerous thing to do and you asked about putting Syrian's together - despite claiming to already know that they can't be put together.
The more this thread has gone on, the more it has worried me. You seem to have no clue what you're supposed to do. You say you have experience with dwarfs, but dwarfs and Syrians are completely different species.

Your friend with the snakes probably ends up feeding his ham-food before they turn territorial. They become sexually mature before they start turning on each other.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:52 AM   #17
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In a better note, Mr Bobtail (not his forum name but thats what most know him as) did actually keep two syrians as a kid. Most here won't try it though so its going to become a rarer and rarer occurence as more learn about hamsters and realise the risks.
You'll struggle to find many examples who have, but thats one for you.
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:30 AM   #18
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No one who is a caring hamster owner would willingly put their beloved hams at risk by forcing them to mate and have a litter, unless they know absolutely everything about breeding and genetics and their hamsters' lines.

I personally only keep one gender at my house, and that is female, to reduce my temptation to mate any I have. If I happen to bring one home who is already pregnant, than so be it. I am willing to take on the health risks, the genetic deformity dangers, and the possibility of keeping them all for the duration of their lifespan.

I am sorry to say, but your not going to find any answers to your liking regarding housing Syrians together. They are simply not a social animal and doing so will most likely end up with one or both dead.

Sorry your not receiving such a warm welcome, but you brought it upon yourself.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:36 PM   #19
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Keeping two Syrians together, no matter the relation, will at best result in wounds to the belly, neck, face, and ears. Your hamsters could end up with bite marks in their ears or lose an eye. Worst case scenario is that they kill each other. They could be completely fine for days or weeks until one day they just snap.

Breeding advice from someone who breeds feeder animals isn't going to be reliable. No way, no how.

If you're new to Syrians, you should have researched first. Put the hamsters' well being first and learn more.
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:59 PM   #20
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Anyway - here´s picture of pups with their mum during celaning the cage.
They´re pretty sweet and are growing pretty fast.

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