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Old 11-04-2010, 05:25 PM   #1
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Default Dominant female, submissive male?

I've never really had this problem before, so I'm hoping that someone here can give me some advice. Coming across female hamsters is hard for me, and my main female who I would like to breed has started getting very dominant. The males I have are very sweet natured and at first they all got along relatively well. Blue Moon (who I wanted to breed to Khalua) loves all the girls and they've done a couple sniffing circles around each other, sniffing glands and seeming very good. For some reason though, Khalua has started getting a lot more dominant. Some of you probably saw my post about her getting a little tank aggressive, well now its transferred over to the males. Normally she and Moon are very good with each other, but today they got into a serious fight. I like to give them all social time outside of their cages where they all meet and bond and get to know each other. I've never had a problem before but I do know that temperaments can change and their 'true selves' can emerge as they mature. What my main question is, is that if Khalua is displaying so much dominance outside of territory, would breeding even take? I know that there can be some scuffles when the female is put in with the males, but this wasnt a scuffle, this was a rolling fight that would have turned into a chase and worse. She and Rolling Rock seem fine, it just seems like Moon is the one she is not happy with. I've been very fortunate in the past and had females who were good natured with everyone but I'm wondering if I should seek out a new female for Moon and assume that this pairing is doomed. Advice/opinions?
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Old 11-05-2010, 03:40 AM   #2
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Default Re: Dominant female, submissive male?

We need to know the species / ages etc of the animals OH as advice would be different for say Chinese / WW / Campbells and Syrians and at different ages too.
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Old 11-05-2010, 10:22 AM   #3
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Oh duh I'm so sorry, they are both Campbells and about 2 months in age. I'm not going to breed them for at least half a year as I want them to mature and really get to know their temperaments first, but I know that its important to introduce hamsters young and thats why I'm asking about getting another female. I would like to while Rock and Moon are still young.
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Old 11-05-2010, 11:20 AM   #4
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Default Re: Dominant female, submissive male?

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Oh duh I'm so sorry, they are both Campbells and about 2 months in age. I'm not going to breed them for at least half a year as I want them to mature and really get to know their temperaments first, but I know that its important to introduce hamsters young and thats why I'm asking about getting another female. I would like to while Rock and Moon are still young.
*confused* So Blue Moon is a male, and Khalua and Rolling Rock are females, and your issue is that Rock is beating up Moon? If you don't want to breed them yet, then why are they living together?
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Old 11-05-2010, 03:44 PM   #5
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I feel like such a moron, I've been sick today lol but I also have a terrible habbit of being vague which I need to stop. I'm sorry!

Rolling Rock and Blue Moon are brothers, both about 2 months in age and they share a cage. Rock is really easygoing with everyone but usually when things start going downhill he gets very standoffish and leaves and he's normally left alone. Blue Moon doesnt have the same 'leave' sense and will stay there and react submissively in most situations. He tends to freeze lol. Khalua is the female and she's the same age as them.

Normally I put them all together outside of their territory (cages) in a large open area (usually the bed or a very large box used for ramen hehe). They would usually just sniff each other, wander around and dig and chew on food that they would spit up and eat, but for some reason Khalua has started getting more and more dominant with everyone. She's gotten a little tank aggressive which were working on, but she's also become very dominant with the boys. She leaves Rock alone cause...well Rock doesnt bother anyone but when she confronts Moon he freezes and then she attacks him, which never used to happen. They would sniff and circle and sniff and one time he almost mounted her (but we stopped that, we just want them to get used to being around each other outside of the tank because we plan on breeding Moon and Khalua.) But the other day she right out attacked him, very badly. Neither one were hurt because were very attentive and always prepared for fights no matter what, but I'm concerned that if she continues to act so dominantly towards him that it will be impossible to breed the two. I'm not sure if her being inside of his enclosure will change her behavior either. I've never really come across a female like her heh, usually my females are very nice, and even she started out very nice as well but I know personalities can change. Her one sibling was a bit testy but thats all. I'm wondering if I should abandon the idea of breeding them, or if this is normal or if I should just pair her up with Rock instead. I've only had about 5 litters, and each one has went smoothly so I'm not used to having rocky pairings heh.

So yeah, advice lol? If I have to get other females I certainly dont mind it, I've worked with breeders before so I know that nothing ever goes as planned haha, it would just be really unfortunate. Its so hard to find good females in Upstate NY.
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